[kj] RFH

Rheinhold Squeegee kjlist at live.com
Thu Apr 7 10:11:28 EDT 2011



So...the "Deluxe" version has three extra remixes of "ESS" and that's it? Everything from track 16 on is just the covers album again.

I feel as though we are being taken advantage of. Maybe they coud just, I don't know, release a single with the remixes?




Other Songs on the album
Absolute Dissent (Deluxe Edition)

Absolute Dissent
The Great Cull
Fresh Fever From The Skies
In Excelsis
European Super State
This World Hell
Endgame
The Raven King
Honour The Fire
Depthcharge
Here Comes The Singularity
Ghosts Of Ladbroke Grove
European Super State (Youth Remix)
European Super State (Dubstep Mix)
European Super State (Justin Broadrick Remix)
The Wait (Explicit Version)
Europe (Bbc Live Version)
Primitive
Pssyche
Love Like Blood
Democracy (Nine Inch Nails Remix)
Wardance
Pssyche
Millennium
Requiem (Bbc Live Version)
Pandemonium



> From: dominicoc at hotmail.com

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> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 18:43:57 -0700

> Subject: [kj] RFH

>

> ESS Dubstep Mix

>

> I found this link to the updated AD deluxe edition. Probably being released

> soon..

> http://mog.com/tracks/mn48752021/killing-joke/absolute-dissent-%28deluxe-edition%29/european-super-state

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> 1. Re: RFH (Cormac)

> 2. Re: RFH (Rob Moss)

> 3. Re: RFH (Alex Smith)

> 4. Re: RFH (Rob Moss)

> 5. Re: RFH (gingoblin at easynet.co.uk)

> 6. Re: RFH (TB)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 16:48:33 +0100 (BST)

> From: Cormac <cormacdj at yahoo.co.uk>

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

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> Yes Rob, he has a business to run and I think KJ is getting in the way! Ha

> was also messed around on this one and was the last to know about the dates.

> I know Benny is still on a retainer but is he high profile?

>

> --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:

>

>

> From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Date: Monday, 4 April, 2011, 16:19

>

>

>

> Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.?

>

>

> It's his business really.?

>

>

> Shame.?

>

>

> Best one of the lot.?

>

> On 4 Apr 2011, at 14:26, fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Even more gutted I couldn't see them now, although if this is it, the

> original line up's lasted longer than I imagined it would.

> New album coming etc, hopefully it's just a short-term thing due to a clash

> of work commitments or the like.

>

>

> Anyone shed any light?

> BPF is the much missed icing on what was becoming a rather wonky cake.

>

>

> Drummer wise, I'd love it if they went crazy & got Grohl to temp.

> Would be a shrewd move business wise but also give them, IMO much needed new

> exposure.

> Reading reviews & seeing the pics/vids the audience seems to be a dwindling

> list of 40/50-somethings, be nice to expand the fan base, spread the word &

> see some young blood in there.

>

>

> [sticks tongue firmly in cheek...]

> Having said that, maybe I'm kidding myself.

> Maybe we're at the cooler end of these 80's acts still doing the rounds,

> recording the odd CD &?playing the old standards while?a bunch of frumpy

> mums pretend they're 15 again. "Too, shy shy, hush hush, eye to eye..."

>

>

>

> :)

>

>

>

>

>

> On 4 Apr 2011, at 12:53, jon chapman wrote:

>

> Sad i missed it -?it could be the final gig with the original line up as BPF

> is not drumming for the American dates /?Europe Festival dates.....but

> somebody?hi profile is expected to replace him.shame.

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> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 16:52:46 +0100

> From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

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> Well he has been drumming for Calvin Harris which may carry some weight in

> some quarters but not with the average KJ fan.

>

> TBH, if it ain't Paul it might as well be anyone unless Grohl did it!!!

>

> On 4 Apr 2011, at 16:48, Cormac <cormacdj at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>

> > Yes Rob, he has a business to run and I think KJ is getting in the way! Ha

> > was also messed around on this one and was the last to know about the

> > dates.

> > I know Benny is still on a retainer but is he high profile?

> >

> > --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:

> >

> > From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>

> > Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> > <gathering at misera.net>

> > Date: Monday, 4 April, 2011, 16:19

> >

> > Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.

> >

> > It's his business really.

> >

> > Shame.

> >

> > Best one of the lot.

> >

> > On 4 Apr 2011, at 14:26, fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:

> >

> >> Even more gutted I couldn't see them now, although if this is it, the

> >> original line up's lasted longer than I imagined it would.

> >> New album coming etc, hopefully it's just a short-term thing due to a

> >> clash of work commitments or the like.

> >>

> >> Anyone shed any light?

> >> BPF is the much missed icing on what was becoming a rather wonky cake.

> >>

> >> Drummer wise, I'd love it if they went crazy & got Grohl to temp.

> >> Would be a shrewd move business wise but also give them, IMO much needed

> >> new exposure.

> >> Reading reviews & seeing the pics/vids the audience seems to be a

> >> dwindling list of 40/50-somethings, be nice to expand the fan base,

> >> spread the word & see some young blood in there.

> >>

> >> [sticks tongue firmly in cheek...]

> >> Having said that, maybe I'm kidding myself.

> >> Maybe we're at the cooler end of these 80's acts still doing the rounds,

> >> recording the odd CD & playing the old standards while a bunch of frumpy

> >> mums pretend they're 15 again. "Too, shy shy, hush hush, eye to eye..."

> >>

> >> :)

> >>

> >>

> >> On 4 Apr 2011, at 12:53, jon chapman wrote:

> >>

> >>> Sad i missed it - it could be the final gig with the original line up as

> >>> BPF is not drumming for the American dates / Europe Festival

> >>> dates.....but somebody hi profile is expected to replace him.shame.

> >

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> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

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> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 16:30:09 +0000

> From: "Rob Moss" <rob.moss at gmx.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

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> Rat Scabies!

>

> What a mess that would be!!!

>

> Paul Cook? Solid..................................

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Alex Smith

> Sent: 04/04/11 05:14 PM

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!), A list about all

> things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

>

> I suppose it's fair to remember that prior to the reformation, Big Paul had

> his own life going, with a wife and a career -- all of which he put back on

> hold. It's not unreasonable to expect him to want to tap back into that

> every now and again (just as Youth did recently with that family matter).

> Still -- Killing Joke losing BPF a second time is nothing short of

> heartbreaking ... especially for ticket holders. Replacement nominees: 1.

> Atkins (would he still be up for it?)

> 2. Grohl (he won't --- the Foos are about to release an album)

> 3. Ted Parsons (I wish)

> 4. Philthy Animal Taylor (he's fuck it up, but it would be a laugh)

> 5. Stephen Morris from New Order (the man's sorely underrated)

> 6. Budgie (it would be more credible than playing with The Mission, which is

> what he's doing nowadays) Alex in NYC -----Original Message-----

> From: Rob Moss

> Sent: Apr 4, 2011 11:19 AM

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

>

> Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.

>

> It's his business really.

>

> Shame.

>

> Best one of the lot.

>

> On 4 Apr 2011, at 14:26, fatpotanga wrote:

>

> > Even more gutted I couldn't see them now, although if this is it, the

> > original line up's lasted longer than I imagined it would.

> > New album coming etc, hopefully it's just a short-term thing due to a

> > clash of work commitments or the like.

> >

> > Anyone shed any light?

> > BPF is the much missed icing on what was becoming a rather wonky cake.

> >

> > Drummer wise, I'd love it if they went crazy & got Grohl to temp.

> > Would be a shrewd move business wise but also give them, IMO much needed

> > new exposure.

> > Reading reviews & seeing the pics/vids the audience seems to be a

> > dwindling list of 40/50-somethings, be nice to expand the fan base, spread

> > the word & see some young blood in there.

> >

> > [sticks tongue firmly in cheek...]

> > Having said that, maybe I'm kidding myself.

> > Maybe we're at the cooler end of these 80's acts still doing the rounds,

> > recording the odd CD & playing the old standards while a bunch of frumpy

> > mums pretend they're 15 again. "Too, shy shy, hush hush, eye to eye..."

> >

> > :)

> >

> >

> > On 4 Apr 2011, at 12:53, jon chapman wrote:

> >

> >> Sad i missed it - it could be the final gig with the original line up as

> >> BPF is not drumming for the American dates / Europe Festival

> >> dates.....but somebody hi profile is expected to replace him.shame.

> > _______________________________________________

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> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 17:45:55 +0100

> From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

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> How?!

>

>

>

>

> At 16:30 04/04/2011 +0000, you wrote:

>

> >Rat Scabies!

> >

> >What a mess that would be!!!

> >

> >Paul Cook? Solid..................................

> >

> >?

> >>

> >>----- Original Message -----

> >>

> >>From: Alex Smith

> >>

> >>Sent: 04/04/11 05:14 PM

> >>

> >>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!), A list about all

> >>things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >>

> >>Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

> >>

> >>>?

> >>>I suppose it's fair to remember that prior to the reformation, Big Paul

> >>>had his own life going, with a wife and a career -- all of which he put

> >>>back on hold. It's not unreasonable to expect him to want to tap back

> >>>into that every now and again (just as Youth did recently with that

> >>>family matter).

> >>>Still -- Killing Joke losing BPF a second time is nothing short of

> >>>heartbreaking ... especially for ticket holders.

> >>>Replacement nominees:

> >>>1. Atkins (would he still be up for it?)

> >>>2. Grohl (he won't --- the Foos are about to release an album)

> >>>3. Ted Parsons (I wish)

> >>>4. Philthy Animal Taylor (he's fuck it up, but it would be a laugh)

> >>>5. Stephen Morris from New Order (the man's sorely underrated)

> >>>6. Budgie (it would be more credible than playing with The Mission,

> >>>which is what he's doing nowadays)

> >>>?

> >>>Alex in NYC

> >>>?

> >>>?

> >>>-----Original Message-----

> >>>From: Rob Moss

> >>>Sent: Apr 4, 2011 11:19 AM

> >>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> >>>Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

> >>>

> >>>Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.

> >>>

> >>>It's his business really.

> >>>

> >>>Shame.

> >>>

> >>>Best one of the lot.

> >>>

> >>>On 4 Apr 2011, at 14:26, fatpotanga wrote:

> >>>

> >>> > Even more gutted I couldn't see them now, although if this is it, the

> >>> original line up's lasted longer than I imagined it would.

> >>> > New album coming etc, hopefully it's just a short-term thing due to a

> >>> clash of work commitments or the like.

> >>> >

> >>> > Anyone shed any light?

> >>> > BPF is the much missed icing on what was becoming a rather wonky cake.

> >>> >

> >>> > Drummer wise, I'd love it if they went crazy & got Grohl to temp.

> >>> > Would be a shrewd move business wise but also give them, IMO much

> >>> needed new exposure.

> >>> > Reading reviews & seeing the pics/vids the audience seems to be a

> >>> dwindling list of 40/50-somethings, be nice to expand the fan base,

> >>> spread the word & see some young blood in there.

> >>> >

> >>> > [sticks tongue firmly in cheek...]

> >>> > Having said that, maybe I'm kidding myself.

> >>> > Maybe we're at the cooler end of these 80's acts still doing the

> >>> rounds, recording the odd CD & playing the old standards while a bunch

> >>> of frumpy mums pretend they're 15 again. "Too, shy shy, hush hush, eye

> >>> to eye..."

> >>> >

> >>> > :)

> >>> >

> >>> >

> >>> > On 4 Apr 2011, at 12:53, jon chapman wrote:

> >>> >

> >>> >> Sad i missed it - it could be the final gig with the original line

> >>> up as BPF is not drumming for the American dates / Europe Festival

> >>> dates.....but somebody hi profile is expected to replace him.shame.

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> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:59:19 -0700

> From: "TB" <planetary at socal.rr.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

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> Rob Moss wrote:

>

> Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.?

>

> It's his business really.?

>

> Shame.?

>

> Best one of the lot.

>

> +++++++++++++

>

> Out of curiosity, what is Paul's business?

>

> I wonder if this means BPF is simply sitting out the rest of the tour dates

> for 2011 or has dropped out of the band "permanently?"

>

> Also, it's typical Killing Joke when fans find out about stuff like this

> through other fans' conversations with band members at a

> gig instead of through some official means like say, their website ....

> especially, well after tickets for the rest of the dates

> affected have gone on sale.

>

> And I agree, BPF was a *huge* element that made the last couple years' shows

> work so well. I know I commented after the Wiltern

> show in LA a few months ago that he was certainly the glue and the engine

> that kept the band on track that night.

>

> T.B.

>

>

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> Message: 7

> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 18:25:05 +0100 (BST)

> From: ADRIAN WASON <adrianwason at btinternet.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

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> i havnt really enjoyed one gig with the 'original line up'.last couple that

> were shit hot were bristol & astoria with benny & raven playing darkness

> before dawn termite mound & sun goes down . think that was 2005

>

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