[kj] RFH

[Dominico C]

ESS Dubstep Mix

I found this link to the updated AD deluxe edition. Probably being released 
soon..
http://mog.com/tracks/mn48752021/killing-joke/absolute-dissent-%28deluxe-edition%29/european-super-state

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   2. Re: RFH (Rob Moss)
   3. Re: RFH (Alex Smith)
   4. Re: RFH (Rob Moss)
   5. Re: RFH (gingoblin at easynet.co.uk)
   6. Re: RFH (TB)
   7. Re: RFH (ADRIAN WASON)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 16:48:33 +0100 (BST)
From: Cormac <cormacdj at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [kj] RFH
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Yes Rob, he has a business to run and I think KJ is getting in the way! Ha 
was also messed around on this one and was the last to know about the dates.
I know Benny is still on a retainer but is he high profile?

--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:


From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] RFH
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
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Date: Monday, 4 April, 2011, 16:19



Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.?


It's his business really.?


Shame.?


Best one of the lot.?

On 4 Apr 2011, at 14:26, fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:




Even more gutted I couldn't see them now, although if this is it, the 
original line up's lasted longer than I imagined it would.
New album coming etc, hopefully it's just a short-term thing due to a clash 
of work commitments or the like.


Anyone shed any light?
BPF is the much missed icing on what was becoming a rather wonky cake.


Drummer wise, I'd love it if they went crazy & got Grohl to temp.
Would be a shrewd move business wise but also give them, IMO much needed new 
exposure.
Reading reviews & seeing the pics/vids the audience seems to be a dwindling 
list of 40/50-somethings, be nice to expand the fan base, spread the word & 
see some young blood in there.


[sticks tongue firmly in cheek...]
Having said that, maybe I'm kidding myself.
Maybe we're at the cooler end of these 80's acts still doing the rounds, 
recording the odd CD &?playing the old standards while?a bunch of frumpy 
mums pretend they're 15 again. "Too, shy shy, hush hush, eye to eye..."




:)






On 4 Apr 2011, at 12:53, jon chapman wrote:

Sad i missed it -?it could be the final gig with the original line up as BPF 
is not drumming for the American dates /?Europe Festival dates.....but 
somebody?hi profile is expected to replace him.shame.


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Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 16:52:46 +0100
From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] RFH
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Well he has been drumming for Calvin Harris which may carry some weight in 
some quarters but not with the average KJ fan.

TBH, if it ain't Paul it might as well be anyone unless  Grohl did it!!!

On 4 Apr 2011, at 16:48, Cormac <cormacdj at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


> Yes Rob, he has a business to run and I think KJ is getting in the way! Ha 

> was also messed around on this one and was the last to know about the 

> dates.

> I know Benny is still on a retainer but is he high profile?

>

> --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:

>

> From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Date: Monday, 4 April, 2011, 16:19

>

> Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.

>

> It's his business really.

>

> Shame.

>

> Best one of the lot.

>

> On 4 Apr 2011, at 14:26, fatpotanga <fatpotanga at gmail.com> wrote:

>

>> Even more gutted I couldn't see them now, although if this is it, the 

>> original line up's lasted longer than I imagined it would.

>> New album coming etc, hopefully it's just a short-term thing due to a 

>> clash of work commitments or the like.

>>

>> Anyone shed any light?

>> BPF is the much missed icing on what was becoming a rather wonky cake.

>>

>> Drummer wise, I'd love it if they went crazy & got Grohl to temp.

>> Would be a shrewd move business wise but also give them, IMO much needed 

>> new exposure.

>> Reading reviews & seeing the pics/vids the audience seems to be a 

>> dwindling list of 40/50-somethings, be nice to expand the fan base, 

>> spread the word & see some young blood in there.

>>

>> [sticks tongue firmly in cheek...]

>> Having said that, maybe I'm kidding myself.

>> Maybe we're at the cooler end of these 80's acts still doing the rounds, 

>> recording the odd CD & playing the old standards while a bunch of frumpy 

>> mums pretend they're 15 again. "Too, shy shy, hush hush, eye to eye..."

>>

>> :)

>>

>>

>> On 4 Apr 2011, at 12:53, jon chapman wrote:

>>

>>> Sad i missed it - it could be the final gig with the original line up as 

>>> BPF is not drumming for the American dates / Europe Festival 

>>> dates.....but somebody hi profile is expected to replace him.shame.

>

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Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 16:30:09 +0000
From: "Rob Moss" <rob.moss at gmx.com>
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Rat Scabies!

What a mess that would be!!!

Paul Cook? Solid..................................
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Smith
Sent: 04/04/11 05:14 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!), A list about all 
things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

I suppose it's fair to remember that prior to the reformation, Big Paul had 
his own life going, with a wife and a career -- all of which he put back on 
hold. It's not unreasonable to expect him to want to tap back into that 
every now and again (just as Youth did recently with that family matter). 
Still -- Killing Joke losing BPF a second time is nothing short of 
heartbreaking ... especially for ticket holders. Replacement nominees: 1. 
Atkins (would he still be up for it?)
2. Grohl (he won't --- the Foos are about to release an album)
3. Ted Parsons (I wish)
4. Philthy Animal Taylor (he's fuck it up, but it would be a laugh)
5. Stephen Morris from New Order (the man's sorely underrated)
6. Budgie (it would be more credible than playing with The Mission, which is 
what he's doing nowadays) Alex in NYC -----Original Message-----
From: Rob Moss
Sent: Apr 4, 2011 11:19 AM
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.

It's his business really.

Shame.

Best one of the lot.

On 4 Apr 2011, at 14:26, fatpotanga wrote:


> Even more gutted I couldn't see them now, although if this is it, the 

> original line up's lasted longer than I imagined it would.

> New album coming etc, hopefully it's just a short-term thing due to a 

> clash of work commitments or the like.

>

> Anyone shed any light?

> BPF is the much missed icing on what was becoming a rather wonky cake.

>

> Drummer wise, I'd love it if they went crazy & got Grohl to temp.

> Would be a shrewd move business wise but also give them, IMO much needed 

> new exposure.

> Reading reviews & seeing the pics/vids the audience seems to be a 

> dwindling list of 40/50-somethings, be nice to expand the fan base, spread 

> the word & see some young blood in there.

>

> [sticks tongue firmly in cheek...]

> Having said that, maybe I'm kidding myself.

> Maybe we're at the cooler end of these 80's acts still doing the rounds, 

> recording the odd CD & playing the old standards while a bunch of frumpy 

> mums pretend they're 15 again. "Too, shy shy, hush hush, eye to eye..."

>

> :)

>

>

> On 4 Apr 2011, at 12:53, jon chapman wrote:

>

>> Sad i missed it - it could be the final gig with the original line up as 

>> BPF is not drumming for the American dates / Europe Festival 

>> dates.....but somebody hi profile is expected to replace him.shame.

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Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 17:45:55 +0100
From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk
Subject: Re: [kj] RFH
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How?!




At 16:30 04/04/2011 +0000, you wrote:


>Rat Scabies!

>

>What a mess that would be!!!

>

>Paul Cook? Solid..................................

>

>?

>>

>>----- Original Message -----

>>

>>From: Alex Smith

>>

>>Sent: 04/04/11 05:14 PM

>>

>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!), A list about all

>>things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>

>>Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

>>

>>>?

>>>I suppose it's fair to remember that prior to the reformation, Big Paul

>>>had his own life going, with a wife and a career -- all of which he put

>>>back on hold. It's not unreasonable to expect him to want to tap back

>>>into that every now and again (just as Youth did recently with that

>>>family matter).

>>>Still -- Killing Joke losing BPF a second time is nothing short of

>>>heartbreaking ... especially for ticket holders.

>>>Replacement nominees:

>>>1. Atkins (would he still be up for it?)

>>>2. Grohl (he won't --- the Foos are about to release an album)

>>>3. Ted Parsons (I wish)

>>>4. Philthy Animal Taylor (he's fuck it up, but it would be a laugh)

>>>5. Stephen Morris from New Order (the man's sorely underrated)

>>>6. Budgie (it would be more credible than playing with The Mission,

>>>which is what he's doing nowadays)

>>>?

>>>Alex in NYC

>>>?

>>>?

>>>-----Original Message-----

>>>From: Rob Moss

>>>Sent: Apr 4, 2011 11:19 AM

>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] RFH

>>>

>>>Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.

>>>

>>>It's his business really.

>>>

>>>Shame.

>>>

>>>Best one of the lot.

>>>

>>>On 4 Apr 2011, at 14:26, fatpotanga wrote:

>>>

>>> > Even more gutted I couldn't see them now, although if this is it, the

>>> original line up's lasted longer than I imagined it would.

>>> > New album coming etc, hopefully it's just a short-term thing due to a

>>> clash of work commitments or the like.

>>> >

>>> > Anyone shed any light?

>>> > BPF is the much missed icing on what was becoming a rather wonky cake.

>>> >

>>> > Drummer wise, I'd love it if they went crazy & got Grohl to temp.

>>> > Would be a shrewd move business wise but also give them, IMO much

>>> needed new exposure.

>>> > Reading reviews & seeing the pics/vids the audience seems to be a

>>> dwindling list of 40/50-somethings, be nice to expand the fan base,

>>> spread the word & see some young blood in there.

>>> >

>>> > [sticks tongue firmly in cheek...]

>>> > Having said that, maybe I'm kidding myself.

>>> > Maybe we're at the cooler end of these 80's acts still doing the

>>> rounds, recording the odd CD & playing the old standards while a bunch

>>> of frumpy mums pretend they're 15 again. "Too, shy shy, hush hush, eye

>>> to eye..."

>>> >

>>> > :)

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > On 4 Apr 2011, at 12:53, jon chapman wrote:

>>> >

>>> >> Sad i missed it - it could be the final gig with the original line

>>> up as BPF is not drumming for the American dates / Europe Festival

>>> dates.....but somebody hi profile is expected to replace him.shame.

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Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:59:19 -0700
From: "TB" <planetary at socal.rr.com>
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Rob Moss wrote:

Other commitments is all that would be fair to say.?

It's his business really.?

Shame.?

Best one of the lot.

+++++++++++++

Out of curiosity, what is Paul's business?

I wonder if this means BPF is simply sitting out the rest of the tour dates 
for 2011 or has dropped out of the band "permanently?"

Also, it's typical Killing Joke when fans find out about stuff like this 
through other fans' conversations with band members at a
gig instead of through some official means like say, their website .... 
especially, well after tickets for the rest of the dates
affected have gone on sale.

And I agree, BPF was a *huge* element that made the last couple years' shows 
work so well.  I know I commented after the Wiltern
show in LA a few months ago that he was certainly the glue and the engine 
that kept the band on track that night.

T.B.



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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 18:25:05 +0100 (BST)
From: ADRIAN WASON <adrianwason at btinternet.com>
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i havnt really enjoyed one gig with the 'original line up'.last couple that 
were shit hot were bristol & astoria with benny & raven playing darkness 
before dawn termite mound & sun goes down . think that was 2005


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