[kj] Extremities

Brendan bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Fri Mar 19 11:50:35 EDT 2010


Basically the only person who rates it is Darren and only because he bumped
into Jaz Coleman when he was coming out of a porn shop with some illegal
Scandi smut, Jaz played him OTG on his fucked stereo in his Mini while
waiting to see his Mum and of course it was a great buzz but it's clouded
his judgement. Ade's made mumblings in the same direction but only in a
'what if' sense. Like 'what if it wasn't as god awful as it is'?

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of gingoblin at easynet.co.uk
Sent: Friday, 19 March 2010 11:09 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities

This is what I like about this list... so many different opinions! For
me, Extremities is one of KJ's greatest moments, certainly helped by what
had come before, but it still sounds great when I play it. And I like the
fast bit in Beautiful Dead too! Ha ha, I also like KJ2003 and Democracy
but hardly ever play Pandemonium.

Has anyone ever said OTG is their favourite?! Could such a thing be
possible?!

Dave in Edinburgh








At 16:23 18/03/2010 -0400, you wrote:

>i was a big fan of KJ2003 too, amidst a lot of loathing among

>Gatherers. could there be a link between our appreciation of both records?

>

>m

>

>

>----------

>Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:21:06 -0700

>From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities

>

>Extremities is fantastic. Certainly the fast part in the Beautiful Dead

>and parts like it have that Ministry "Mind is a Terrible Thing" vibe and

>sound dated as hell now but I think it was just a matter of them trying to

>"keep up with the joneses". Trying to stay relevent to the kids while

>still retaining their own unique sound. I think it's a nice blend and I

>love that they attempted it. I don't think it's the first time they

>deviated from their standard sound and tried to take on different

>contemporary styles. Pretty much everything from Nighttime and on sees

>them melding their style to what was current at the time. The idea of

>Killing Joke absorbing the musical climate at any given time, putting it

>through their own filter and spitting it back out is one that I'm totally

>into. I'll take that from most bands, actually. Pandemonium and Democracy

>both have standout tracks but are also lousy with filler. Extremities is a

>much more solid album. I think it's the last really relevent thing they

>did, although KJ2003 comes close.

>

>Leigh

>

>

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>From: Matthew Burke <marsboy1 at msn.com>

>To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>

>Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 8:56:37 PM

>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities

>

>i think extremities is one of the most complete and perfect things they

>ever did, the recording style merely reaffirmed the "punk" in their

>post-punk pedigree.

>

>

>

>

>----------

>Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:48:50 -0700

>From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities

>

>I found DMCRCY was a welcome tack in a lighter direction after the

intensity

>of the "Extremities.. - L?IMBO - Pandemonium" sequence.

>

>

>... ... ... ... ... ...

>

>[looking at the current state of things..]

>

>'Who has the fun..

> ..is it always a man with a gun...?

> Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat"

>

>

>

>From: n0153 jr <nomeanswhat at gmail.com>

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>

>Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 4:35:22 PM

>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities

>

>love 'em both... that's it.

>even like democracy a lot.

>

>

>On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:27 PM, sade1

><<mailto:saulomar1 at yahoo.com>saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>>I've always thought that "Extremities.."(the song) went a little too

>>"Pink Floyd-ish" at parts.

>>I think Jaz is the Pink Floyd fan of the group.

>>

>>

>>... ... ... ... ... ...

>>

>>[looking at the current state of things..]

>>

>>'Who has the fun..

>> ..is it always a man with a gun...?

>> Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat"

>>

>>

>>

>>From: Neil Perry <<mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>65snoopy at gmail.com>

>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>><<mailto:gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net>

>>Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 2:28:19 AM

>>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities

>>

>>Yeah I know its a lazy phrase... I'm listening to Extremities now and I

>>chiefly meant

>>the fast section slapped into the middle of Beautiful Dead for absolutely

>>no reason that ruins what would

>>have been a fantastic song, the horrible mess that is Struggle and

>>sections of the title track.

>>

>>But Geordie's guitar sounds fucking incredible - was this the last time

>>that sound we all

>>know and love was in evidence on a KJ record?

>>

>>Sorry Jel, no more analysis, promise

>>

>>

>>On 16 March 2010 16:24, Brian Whitehead

>><<mailto:bawhitehead at gmail.com>bawhitehead at gmail.com> wrote:

>>>"bad thrash metal stuff on Extremities"

>>>

>>>This has been levelled at Extremeties in the past and to be honest I

>>>cant see it? May be as I don't listen to a lot of thrash metal.

>>>

>>>Following Jon's footy analogy, it's 4-2 to Extremeties for me with a

>>>Geordie hat-trick.

>>>

>>>Brian.

>>>

>>>

>>>On 16 March 2010 13:12, Neil Perry

>>><<mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>Well I think both albums are games of two halves, Alan

>>>>

>>>>Always hated the bad thrash metal stuff on Extremities but some of the

>>>>guitar

>>>>work still stands as some of Geordie's finest - and Termite Mound is

>>>>always in

>>>>my KJ top ten. Except that Termite Mound was very unrepresentative of

the

>>>>whole LP - wish it was more like this. I just don't think KJ do fast

>>>>very well,

>>>>and are far more menacing when they slow it down

>>>>

>>>>Where as Pandemonium had some filler, agreed, but the good stuff was

>>>>great - and I include Communion, the title track, Black Moon and the

>>>>original mixes of

>>>>Millennium and Mathematics (cheating I know, but...)

>>>>

>>>>And I like Jana.

>>>>

>>>>It goes to penalties, and Pandemonium wins.

>>>>

>>>>Still getting me coat, Jamie hold the bus

>>>>

>>>>n

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>On 16 March 2010 13:19, jon chapman

>>>><<mailto:jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>>>>>Pandemonium was ruined for the poor version of Mathematics,the shite

>>>>>that is Jana,Pleasures of The Flesh and i've grown to hate Communion.

>>>>>

>>>>>Extremities wasn't ruined.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Extremities wins on the away goals rule.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>----------

>>>>>From: <mailto:gregslawson at msn.com>gregslawson at msn.com

>>>>>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net

>>>>>Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:12:30 -0400

>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Extremities may be a better album--certainly more original, and no

>>>>>real weak songs--but Pandemonium is better to just sit there and rock

out to!

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>----------

>>>>>Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:30:44 +0100

>>>>>From: <mailto:rob.moss at gmx.com>rob.moss at gmx.com

>>>>>To: <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>vassifer at earthlink.net;

>>>>><mailto:gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net

>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities

>>>>>

>>>>>Quite right.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Looks likes its boys one side of the room and girls the other then!

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>So that's it, if you prefer Pandemonium to Extremities, you are a

>>>>>girl. Period.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>----- Original Message -----

>>>>>From: Alex Smith

>>>>>Sent: 03/15/10 05:15 PM

>>>>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!), 'A list about

>>>>>all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities

>>>>>

>>>>>PANDEMONIUM has more filler than EXTREMITIES.

>>>>>Alex in NYC

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>-----Original Message-----

>>>>>From: Brendan

>>>>>Sent: Mar 15, 2010 11:59 AM

>>>>>To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"

>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities

>>>>>

>>>>>I don't mind it but Pandy pisses all over it. Ade agrees with me.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>From:

>>>>><http://sn109w.snt109.mail.live.com/mail/RteFrame_15.1.3039.0211.html?p

f=pf#>gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>>>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Neil Perry

>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2010 2:52 AM

>>>>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>I never really liked Extremities.

>>>>>Too thrashy. I give Termite Mound and North of the Border a blast

>>>>>now and again.

>>>>>

>>>>>I'll get me coat

>>>>>

>>>>>N

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>On 15 March 2010 16:00, n0153 jr

>>>>><<http://sn109w.snt109.mail.live.com/mail/RteFrame_15.1.3039.0211.html?

pf=pf#>nomeanswhat at gmail.com>

>>>>>wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>except Hosannas isn't as terrible as OTG... I actually like it a lot.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Rob Moss

>>>>><<http://sn109w.snt109.mail.live.com/mail/RteFrame_15.1.3039.0211.html?

pf=pf#>rob.moss at gmx.com>

>>>>>wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Been a while since I gave this a listen and was blown away by just how

>>>>>good this one really is.

>>>>>I remember the sense of anticipation when this one came out after the

>>>>>way that OTG was perceived.

>>>>>This ticked all the boxes at the time.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>Kind of feel the same about the new one!

>>>>>

>>>>>

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