[kj] Extremities
Brendan
bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Fri Mar 19 11:50:35 EDT 2010
Basically the only person who rates it is Darren and only because he bumped
into Jaz Coleman when he was coming out of a porn shop with some illegal
Scandi smut, Jaz played him OTG on his fucked stereo in his Mini while
waiting to see his Mum and of course it was a great buzz but it's clouded
his judgement. Ade's made mumblings in the same direction but only in a
'what if' sense. Like 'what if it wasn't as god awful as it is'?
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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of gingoblin at easynet.co.uk
Sent: Friday, 19 March 2010 11:09 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
This is what I like about this list... so many different opinions! For
me, Extremities is one of KJ's greatest moments, certainly helped by what
had come before, but it still sounds great when I play it. And I like the
fast bit in Beautiful Dead too! Ha ha, I also like KJ2003 and Democracy
but hardly ever play Pandemonium.
Has anyone ever said OTG is their favourite?! Could such a thing be
possible?!
Dave in Edinburgh
At 16:23 18/03/2010 -0400, you wrote:
>i was a big fan of KJ2003 too, amidst a lot of loathing among
>Gatherers. could there be a link between our appreciation of both records?
>
>m
>
>
>----------
>Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:21:06 -0700
>From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com
>To: gathering at misera.net
>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>
>Extremities is fantastic. Certainly the fast part in the Beautiful Dead
>and parts like it have that Ministry "Mind is a Terrible Thing" vibe and
>sound dated as hell now but I think it was just a matter of them trying to
>"keep up with the joneses". Trying to stay relevent to the kids while
>still retaining their own unique sound. I think it's a nice blend and I
>love that they attempted it. I don't think it's the first time they
>deviated from their standard sound and tried to take on different
>contemporary styles. Pretty much everything from Nighttime and on sees
>them melding their style to what was current at the time. The idea of
>Killing Joke absorbing the musical climate at any given time, putting it
>through their own filter and spitting it back out is one that I'm totally
>into. I'll take that from most bands, actually. Pandemonium and Democracy
>both have standout tracks but are also lousy with filler. Extremities is a
>much more solid album. I think it's the last really relevent thing they
>did, although KJ2003 comes close.
>
>Leigh
>
>
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>From: Matthew Burke <marsboy1 at msn.com>
>To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
>Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 8:56:37 PM
>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>
>i think extremities is one of the most complete and perfect things they
>ever did, the recording style merely reaffirmed the "punk" in their
>post-punk pedigree.
>
>
>
>
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>Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:48:50 -0700
>From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
>To: gathering at misera.net
>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>
>I found DMCRCY was a welcome tack in a lighter direction after the
intensity
>of the "Extremities.. - L?IMBO - Pandemonium" sequence.
>
>
>... ... ... ... ... ...
>
>[looking at the current state of things..]
>
>'Who has the fun..
> ..is it always a man with a gun...?
> Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat"
>
>
>
>From: n0153 jr <nomeanswhat at gmail.com>
>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
>Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 4:35:22 PM
>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>
>love 'em both... that's it.
>even like democracy a lot.
>
>
>On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:27 PM, sade1
><<mailto:saulomar1 at yahoo.com>saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>I've always thought that "Extremities.."(the song) went a little too
>>"Pink Floyd-ish" at parts.
>>I think Jaz is the Pink Floyd fan of the group.
>>
>>
>>... ... ... ... ... ...
>>
>>[looking at the current state of things..]
>>
>>'Who has the fun..
>> ..is it always a man with a gun...?
>> Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat"
>>
>>
>>
>>From: Neil Perry <<mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>65snoopy at gmail.com>
>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>><<mailto:gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net>
>>Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 2:28:19 AM
>>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>>
>>Yeah I know its a lazy phrase... I'm listening to Extremities now and I
>>chiefly meant
>>the fast section slapped into the middle of Beautiful Dead for absolutely
>>no reason that ruins what would
>>have been a fantastic song, the horrible mess that is Struggle and
>>sections of the title track.
>>
>>But Geordie's guitar sounds fucking incredible - was this the last time
>>that sound we all
>>know and love was in evidence on a KJ record?
>>
>>Sorry Jel, no more analysis, promise
>>
>>
>>On 16 March 2010 16:24, Brian Whitehead
>><<mailto:bawhitehead at gmail.com>bawhitehead at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>"bad thrash metal stuff on Extremities"
>>>
>>>This has been levelled at Extremeties in the past and to be honest I
>>>cant see it? May be as I don't listen to a lot of thrash metal.
>>>
>>>Following Jon's footy analogy, it's 4-2 to Extremeties for me with a
>>>Geordie hat-trick.
>>>
>>>Brian.
>>>
>>>
>>>On 16 March 2010 13:12, Neil Perry
>>><<mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>Well I think both albums are games of two halves, Alan
>>>>
>>>>Always hated the bad thrash metal stuff on Extremities but some of the
>>>>guitar
>>>>work still stands as some of Geordie's finest - and Termite Mound is
>>>>always in
>>>>my KJ top ten. Except that Termite Mound was very unrepresentative of
the
>>>>whole LP - wish it was more like this. I just don't think KJ do fast
>>>>very well,
>>>>and are far more menacing when they slow it down
>>>>
>>>>Where as Pandemonium had some filler, agreed, but the good stuff was
>>>>great - and I include Communion, the title track, Black Moon and the
>>>>original mixes of
>>>>Millennium and Mathematics (cheating I know, but...)
>>>>
>>>>And I like Jana.
>>>>
>>>>It goes to penalties, and Pandemonium wins.
>>>>
>>>>Still getting me coat, Jamie hold the bus
>>>>
>>>>n
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 16 March 2010 13:19, jon chapman
>>>><<mailto:jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>Pandemonium was ruined for the poor version of Mathematics,the shite
>>>>>that is Jana,Pleasures of The Flesh and i've grown to hate Communion.
>>>>>
>>>>>Extremities wasn't ruined.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Extremities wins on the away goals rule.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----------
>>>>>From: <mailto:gregslawson at msn.com>gregslawson at msn.com
>>>>>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net
>>>>>Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:12:30 -0400
>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Extremities may be a better album--certainly more original, and no
>>>>>real weak songs--but Pandemonium is better to just sit there and rock
out to!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----------
>>>>>Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:30:44 +0100
>>>>>From: <mailto:rob.moss at gmx.com>rob.moss at gmx.com
>>>>>To: <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>vassifer at earthlink.net;
>>>>><mailto:gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net
>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>>>>>
>>>>>Quite right.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Looks likes its boys one side of the room and girls the other then!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>So that's it, if you prefer Pandemonium to Extremities, you are a
>>>>>girl. Period.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: Alex Smith
>>>>>Sent: 03/15/10 05:15 PM
>>>>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!), 'A list about
>>>>>all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>>>>>
>>>>>PANDEMONIUM has more filler than EXTREMITIES.
>>>>>Alex in NYC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Brendan
>>>>>Sent: Mar 15, 2010 11:59 AM
>>>>>To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't mind it but Pandy pisses all over it. Ade agrees with me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>From:
>>>>><http://sn109w.snt109.mail.live.com/mail/RteFrame_15.1.3039.0211.html?p
f=pf#>gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>>>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Neil Perry
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2010 2:52 AM
>>>>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I never really liked Extremities.
>>>>>Too thrashy. I give Termite Mound and North of the Border a blast
>>>>>now and again.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll get me coat
>>>>>
>>>>>N
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 15 March 2010 16:00, n0153 jr
>>>>><<http://sn109w.snt109.mail.live.com/mail/RteFrame_15.1.3039.0211.html?
pf=pf#>nomeanswhat at gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>except Hosannas isn't as terrible as OTG... I actually like it a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Rob Moss
>>>>><<http://sn109w.snt109.mail.live.com/mail/RteFrame_15.1.3039.0211.html?
pf=pf#>rob.moss at gmx.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Been a while since I gave this a listen and was blown away by just how
>>>>>good this one really is.
>>>>>I remember the sense of anticipation when this one came out after the
>>>>>way that OTG was perceived.
>>>>>This ticked all the boxes at the time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Kind of feel the same about the new one!
>>>>>
>>>>>
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