[kj] Extremities
Neil Perry
65snoopy at gmail.com
Thu Mar 18 07:14:57 EDT 2010
Yes, that's it, thank you - Ministry - far more accurate than my lazy thrash
tag.
I think my dissatisfaction with Extremities came from the fact that for the
first time
I thought, Hmm, that sounds like [insert band here] - something I'd never
done before with Killing Joke.
We can blame it on the drummer can't we.
N
On 18 March 2010 07:21, Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Extremities is fantastic. Certainly the fast part in the Beautiful Dead and
> parts like it have that Ministry "Mind is a Terrible Thing" vibe and sound
> dated as hell now but I think it was just a matter of them trying to "keep
> up with the joneses". Trying to stay relevent to the kids while still
> retaining their own unique sound. I think it's a nice blend and I love that
> they attempted it. I don't think it's the first time they deviated from
> their standard sound and tried to take on different contemporary
> styles. Pretty much everything from Nighttime and on sees them melding their
> style to what was current at the time. The idea of Killing Joke absorbing
> the musical climate at any given time, putting it through their own filter
> and spitting it back out is one that I'm totally into. I'll take that from
> most bands, actually. Pandemonium and Democracy both have standout tracks
> but are also lousy with filler. Extremities is a much more solid album. I
> think it's the last really relevent thing they did, although KJ2003 comes
> close.
>
> Leigh
>
>
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> *From:* Matthew Burke <marsboy1 at msn.com>
> *To:* gathering <gathering at misera.net>
> *Sent:* Wed, March 17, 2010 8:56:37 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [kj] Extremities
>
> i think extremities is one of the most complete and perfect things they
> ever did, the recording style merely reaffirmed the "punk" in their
> post-punk pedigree.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:48:50 -0700
> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>
> I found DMCRCY was a welcome tack in a lighter direction after the intensity
>
> of the "Extremities.. - L?IMBO - Pandemonium" sequence.
>
>
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> *[looking at the current state of things..]*
> **
> 'Who has the fun..
> ..is it always a man with a gun...?
> Someone must have told him if you work too hard... *you can sweat*"
>
>
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> *From:* n0153 jr <nomeanswhat at gmail.com>
> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <
> gathering at misera.net>
> *Sent:* Wed, March 17, 2010 4:35:22 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [kj] Extremities
>
> love 'em both... that's it.
> even like democracy a lot.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:27 PM, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I've always thought that "Extremities.."(the song) went a little too
> "Pink Floyd-ish" at parts.
> I think Jaz is the Pink Floyd fan of the group.
>
>
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> *[looking at the current state of things..]*
> **
> 'Who has the fun..
> ..is it always a man with a gun...?
> Someone must have told him if you work too hard... *you can sweat*"
>
>
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> *From:* Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>
> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <
> gathering at misera.net>
> *Sent:* Wed, March 17, 2010 2:28:19 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [kj] Extremities
>
> Yeah I know its a lazy phrase... I'm listening to Extremities now and I
> chiefly meant
> the fast section slapped into the middle of Beautiful Dead for absolutely
> no reason that ruins what would
> have been a fantastic song, the horrible mess that is Struggle and sections
> of the title track.
>
> But Geordie's guitar sounds fucking incredible - was this the last time
> that sound we all
> know and love was in evidence on a KJ record?
>
> Sorry Jel, no more analysis, promise
>
>
> On 16 March 2010 16:24, Brian Whitehead <bawhitehead at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "bad thrash metal stuff on Extremities"
>
> This has been levelled at Extremeties in the past and to be honest I cant
> see it? May be as I don't listen to a lot of thrash metal.
>
> Following Jon's footy analogy, it's 4-2 to Extremeties for me with a
> Geordie hat-trick.
>
> Brian.
>
>
> On 16 March 2010 13:12, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well I think both albums are games of two halves, Alan
>
> Always hated the bad thrash metal stuff on Extremities but some of the
> guitar
> work still stands as some of Geordie's finest - and Termite Mound is always
> in
> my KJ top ten. Except that Termite Mound was very unrepresentative of the
> whole LP - wish it was more like this. I just don't think KJ do fast very
> well,
> and are far more menacing when they slow it down
>
> Where as Pandemonium had some filler, agreed, but the good stuff was
> great - and I include Communion, the title track, Black Moon and the
> original mixes of
> Millennium and Mathematics (cheating I know, but...)
>
> And I like Jana.
>
> It goes to penalties, and Pandemonium wins.
>
> Still getting me coat, Jamie hold the bus
>
> n
>
>
> On 16 March 2010 13:19, jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Pandemonium was ruined for the poor version of Mathematics,the shite that
> is Jana,Pleasures of The Flesh and i've grown to hate Communion.
>
> Extremities wasn't ruined.
>
>
>
> Extremities wins on the away goals rule.
>
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> ------------------------------
> From: gregslawson at msn.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:12:30 -0400
> Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>
>
> Extremities may be a better album--certainly more original, and no real
> weak songs--but Pandemonium is better to just sit there and rock out to!
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:30:44 +0100
> From: rob.moss at gmx.com
> To: vassifer at earthlink.net; gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>
> Quite right.
>
>
> Looks likes its boys one side of the room and girls the other then!
>
>
> So that's it, if you prefer Pandemonium to Extremities, you are a girl.
> Period.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Smith
> Sent: 03/15/10 05:15 PM
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!), 'A list about all
> things Killing Joke (the band!)'
> Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>
> PANDEMONIUM has more filler than EXTREMITIES.
> Alex in NYC
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brendan
> Sent: Mar 15, 2010 11:59 AM
> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
> Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities
>
> I don’t mind it but Pandy pisses all over it. Ade agrees with me.
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net<http://sn109w.snt109.mail.live.com/mail/RteFrame_15.1.3039.0211.html?pf=pf#>[mailto:
> gathering-bounces at misera.net<http://sn109w.snt109.mail.live.com/mail/RteFrame_15.1.3039.0211.html?pf=pf#>]
> *On Behalf Of *Neil Perry
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 16 March 2010 2:52 AM
> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> *Subject:* Re: [kj] Extremities
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I never really liked Extremities.
> Too thrashy. I give Termite Mound and North of the Border a blast
> now and again.
>
> I'll get me coat
>
> N
>
>
>
>
> On 15 March 2010 16:00, n0153 jr <nomeanswhat at gmail.com<http://sn109w.snt109.mail.live.com/mail/RteFrame_15.1.3039.0211.html?pf=pf#>>
> wrote:
>
>
> except Hosannas isn't as terrible as OTG... I actually like it a lot.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com<http://sn109w.snt109.mail.live.com/mail/RteFrame_15.1.3039.0211.html?pf=pf#>>
> wrote:
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> Been a while since I gave this a listen and was blown away by just how good
> this one really is.
>
> I remember the sense of anticipation when this one came out after the way
> that OTG was perceived.
>
> This ticked all the boxes at the time.
>
>
>
> Kind of feel the same about the new one!
>
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>
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