[kj] Endgame(s)mix

[Matt Tibbits]

It is Endgame - singular (from the horses mouth).

 


 


Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:15:13 -0500
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
To: phil.tofield at virgin.net; gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Endgame(s)mix

It'll probably be more advisable to stick it up someone else's arse. Just wear a hat.
(Club Heaven! Chaching! Do I get a prize?)

While I can't delve into the subtleties of bass lines, genres, influences etc... like many of you, I can state if something sounds good
or not. Hosannas was horrific. It's the only KJ album (other than the America single) that has disappointed me. 

I think the album had a lot more potential than what it delivered. And to strain the shit out of my ears just to
barely make out the vocals is simply bullshit! The mixing sucked. It was the first thing that came to mind as soon as I head it.

I think many collective arse's(?) would agree.

I'm now off to Starbucks with a Nuke.

At 07:08 PM 3/3/2010, phil wrote:

With respect Oliver, there is a big difference between sounding raw
and bad production. The Radcliffe session that you mention was
(correct me if I'm wrong)  recorded in the BBC Maida Vale studio,
quite probably one of the best live recording studios in the world.
The BBC know what they are doing when it comes to producing live
bands, listen to any episode of Later with Joolz for proof of that.

The production on Hosannas was just BAD. The entire album was just a
wall of conflicting overdriven frequencies, resulting in a muddy and
incoherent mix. If it comes down to personal taste, and you happen to
like muddy and incoherent, then fine. I dont, and I dont believe its
what Killing Joke should sound like with 30+ years of experience under
their belt.

The bottom line is this - a well produced album will not only sound
better, but will sell better. And what Killing Joke need most at this
late stage in their career is sales! As Pete said, they need us now
more than we need them, and another piss poor album could be the end
of them.

This is just my opinion of course. You can tell me to stick it up my
arse if you like, horses for courses, and all that....

phil


On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:52:40 -0600, you wrote:


>Phil wrote: "sorry, but Killing Joke are not, and should never be 'lo-fi 

>garagerock'.

>

>Phil,

> 

>I have an awesome early version of "Are You receiving?" that says 

>otherwise! :)

>

>Seriously, though, I like the "Universe B" approach (like I actually 

>said, even) -- the "epic" approach, and it'd be great if they went more 

>in that vein, to me, but I also don't mind production values that do not 

>sound like they either cost either a million bucks, or were done by, er, 

>"professionals" (*cough*) are too slick, etc. I like how "End Game" 

>sounded as it was/is - ripped off streaming radio. But as everyone else 

>said, it'll probably only sound better once we hear the actual, non-web 

>streamed version, whose quality was surely compromised. I love the 

>rough/raw Radcliffe versions of songs like "Exorcism" and "Whiteout" 

>(KIlling Joke, "Whiteout"(rough)" 

>< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SKuN8VVWgU>)- but hey, that's just me.

>

>-Oliver

>

>

>phil wrote:

>> sorry, but Killing Joke are not, and should never be 'lo-fi garage

>> rock'. The production on Hosannas was fucking dreadfull. The bass and

>> drums sounded like they'd been recorded from a seperate room. With the

>> door shut.

>>

>>

>>   

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