[kj] The Complications opening for Killing Joke in Montreal

[Karen Weil]

I have to agree. 

k.w.
the States 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Alex Smith 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) ; gathering 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] The Complications opening for Killing Joke in Montreal



   "Minor Threat is probably seen as more infuential/important to rock history, ethics, and practices than PiL"

  I love both bands dearly, but I think this is a pretty debatable statement. 

  Alex in NYC





   

    -----Original Message----- 
    From: GREG SLAWSON 
    Sent: Mar 3, 2010 11:24 AM 
    To: gathering 
    Subject: Re: [kj] The Complications opening for Killing Joke in Montreal 

    But ironically, Minor Threat is probably seen as more infuential/important to rock history, ethics, and practices than PiL, except for the early PiL being an influence on vaguely defined dub/"post rock" bands.
     
    > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:13:20 -0600
    > From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net
    > To: gathering at misera.net
    > Subject: Re: [kj] The Complications opening for Killing Joke in Montreal
    > 
    > Right.
    > 
    > Killing Joke opened for Motley Crue. Times have changed.
    > 
    > Not that KJ were ever part of the same sort of scene spoken of in, say 
    > "The Day the Country Died" (UK grassroots DIY etc., even though they did 
    > that weird thing with Honey Bane, who was on Crass Rex) or in the 
    > underground network that deveoped of he sort in "American Hardcore."
    > 
    > Still, I remember a time when a odunk, grassroots meaningless, 
    > let-s-just-automatically-refer-to-them-with-contempt-and-derision-for-no-good-reason 
    > type of band, Minor Threat, opened for PiL. Minor Threat were paid a 
    > pizza and coca-cola. You can hear Ian macKaye recount this experience 
    > bitterly in a few interviews. Lydon pulled up in a limo or something and 
    > refused to even meet Minor Threat. They were a podunk grasroots local 
    > band who weren't important, after all.
    > 
    > -Oliver
    > 
    > 
    > GREG SLAWSON wrote:
    > > I remember in the old days of punk, in places like Boston (and LA, 
    > > from the posters I've seen) there would be 3, 4, 5, or even more bands 
    > > at a gig, for a reasonable price, w/no real headliner or opening 
    > > bands. SST records bands were famous for this. And in Boston the 
    > > garage/punk/power pop bands all collaborated and did gigs together, 
    > > making for a real community atmosphere. These days music is much more 
    > > segmented into sub-sub-sub genres, and there is less of a community 
    > > feeling.
    > 
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