[kj] Endgame(s)mix

Matt Tibbits matt_tibbits at hotmail.com
Wed Mar 3 10:28:03 EST 2010



I'm sure you'll all be much happier when you hear the real thing, not a condensed mp3 grabbed from a radio show.








Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:04:22 +0100
From: 65snoopy at gmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Endgame(s)mix

Glad you all came out of the closet before me...

After the initial excitement of a new song, I was distinctly
underwhelmed, a large part of that because it sounded so 'orrible.
Light and dark seems to have been replaced by a big bowl of mush.

(And I'm not just saying this because I might now be having a meaningless
3 days in Prague for which I gave up my Iggy & Stooges London gig ticket because
I couldn't afford the time and money for both, oh no, not at all).

But like you say, it is an mp3 of a net broadcast - not exactly hi-fi.
Like anything with KJ 2010, it seems, we have to wait and see.

n



On 3 March 2010 15:51, phil <phil.tofield at virgin.net> wrote:

I totally agree. After reading most of the comments yesterday, I
thought I must be the only one who thought the mix of this track is
dreadfull. The drums dont sound like the tribal Big Paul of old, much
more rocky than I was expecting. The bass, although its doing
'something', seems a bit lacking in punch and clarity. The whole thing
reminds me of the mix on the last album - total wall of sound
production with none of the individual instruments sitting within
their own space in the mix. Like Marc & Todd said, it could be because
its an mp3 ripped from a net radio station, which has squeezed the
life out of this mix. I'll have to reserve judgement until I hear the
final release, but from what Ive heard so far, it doesnt bode well.




On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:12:44 -0600, you wrote:


>I agree rob, terrible mix and hopefully it is merely a matter of us not

>hearing the intended production source. But as all too often, almost always,

>killing joke take the heavy handed approach to mixing and create an album

>that has all the signatures of the producers attempting to blow the listener

>away with a maelstrom of frequencies flooding each other out.

>

>

>

>What killing joke is not good at is understanding that less is more,

>unfortunately, every record becomes more, and more, and more.

>

>

>

>some space in the mix would greatly increase the power of the aggregates for

>the whole

>

>

>

> _____

>

>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

>Behalf Of Rob Moss

>Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 3:49 AM

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Subject: Re: [kj] Endgame(s)

>

>

>

>I know it's an MP3 grab from the radio and could be a rough mix, but I find

>the whole mix very poor.

>

>Vocals don't come out, guitars rather fuzzy and drums very buried.

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>

>

>Immense power though and a really great chorus. Goes round and round in my

>head.

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>

>

>B

>

>----- Original Message -----

>

>From: Karen Weil

>

>Sent: 03/02/10 09:20 PM

>

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)

>

>Subject: Re: [kj] Endgame(s)

>

>B

>

>Hmmm. ... definitely not his more "tribalistic" sound, but I think he holds

>his own.

>

>B

>

>Cheers,

>

>B

>

>k.w.

>

>----- Original Message -----

>

>From: Bob Barathy

>

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>

>Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:59 PM

>

>Subject: Re: [kj] Endgame(s)

>

>

>

>Yes many thanks guys. Love the guitar. Chorus is v strong but where are the

>BIG BPF drums?! :-(

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>Behalf Of ADRIAN WASON

>Sent: 02 March 2010 20:20

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: [kj] Endgame(s)

>

>massive thanks to Jon

>

>i've only listened once-first time saw video clipB ithought it was pure

>firedances but it's a litle more sophisticated.

>

>everyone came in their pants when implant was 'leaked' but ther were only

>another 2 tracks on that cd(D&R,BOYH)

>

>disagree with anyone who says it isB B way better than anything on

>hosannas-title track /judas goat/universe b up their with best

>

>popping headphones on now for another go!

>

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