[kj] at last...

PHIL TOFIELD phil.tofield at virgin.net
Fri Jun 25 14:28:29 EDT 2010


I misread that horribly at first...

*mind bleach*

On 25 June 2010 19:25, folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com> wrote:


> Jaz has been seen getting down to 'dancing queen' ;)

>

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> CC: gathering at misera.net

> From: rob.moss at gmx.com

> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:21:41 +0100

>

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] at last...

>

> Found it.

>

> If it's the same as the cassettes it has a TTR dub an about 6 madness

> dubs.

> Plus some untitled jams and a 12 minute dub version of Abba's Voulez

> Though that last bit might be a fabrication. .

>

> On 25 Jun 2010, at 18:09, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Well Rob if you still have it I'd love a copy.

>

> As for planting the seed with Youth, if he can't remember what's on the

> band's new

> release then I'd love to see his reaction when asked about some mixes he

> did 30 or so years ago...

> still, perhaps only his short-term memory is shot!

> But yes, they must be out there somewhere

>

> On 25 June 2010 17:33, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:

>

> Dunno

>

>

> Will have a look when I get home.

> I hope I've still got it after all this!

>

>

> I remember feeling well and truly screwed when I played it as teh quality

> is somewhat iffy!

>

>

>

> I recall in the dim and distant past someone saying that the plan was to

> release a dub version of WTF but EG said no.

> Somewhere, all these mixes MUST exist. That would be a great thing to have

> in their full glory!

>

>

>

> I'll mention it to Colesey and get him to plant the seed with Youth seeing

> as it's the original 4 again.......

>

>

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>

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>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: jpwhkj at aol.com

> Sent: 06/25/10 04:19 PM

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] at last...

>

> Rob - does yours include the WTF-era Skinner session?

>

> Does anyone know when this was released? The material is all 79-81 (first

> ep->WTF) so presumably it was recorded in 81 or perhaps early 82, but I

> wonder if it was released (by Youth?) after the Joke split...

>

> Just found my cassette copy, the full title given is: In Dub (Studio

> Out-takes)

>

> Jamie

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net

> >

> Sent: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:23

> Subject: Re: [kj] at last...

>

> I bought a cd of it years back thinking it would be better quality than

> that which I had heard.

>

> It isn't but you are welcome to a copy if you send me your address.

>

> But no more of those naked pictures of yourself like last time eh?

>

>

>

> On 25 Jun 2010, at 14:42, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Wow, thanks... Why am I only hearing of this now after 30 years of

> searching out every KJ-related item...

>

> Anyone have a good-quality version of this?

> N

>

> On 25 June 2010 15:38, PHIL TOFIELD < <phil.tofield at virgin.net>

> phil.tofield at virgin.net> wrote:

>

> its an old bootleg of 1st and 2nd album tracks remixed in a dub stylee by

> Youth. Ive got it on cassette somewhere. The mixes were pretty good, but the

> sound quality on the tape is very poor.

>

> On 25 June 2010 13:40, Neil Perry < <65snoopy at gmail.com>65snoopy at gmail.com

> > wrote:

>

> "stuff off the *Killing Joke In Dub bootleg*"

>

> What's that then? Is it good? Do you have it? Can I have it? :)

>

> N, still waiting for the postman (mine does involve international post,

> which makes me a bit nervous)

>

> On 25 June 2010 13:26, < <jpwhkj at aol.com>jpwhkj at aol.com> wrote:

>

> Further thoughts, typed as I listen for the first time:

>

> In Excelsis is much better on CD than the version we'd previously heard. I

> like it a lot.

>

> Endgame still doesn't do it for me. Quite chuggy guitar; Jaz sings a bit,

> but quite growly vocals; not very catchy; no underlying funky vibe. I

> pressed "Next" before it was over, not 'cos it's really awful, but because I

> want to hear...

>

> Kali Yuga is really powerful! Excellent singing from Jaz.

>

> Ghosts is just starting... sending a shiver down my spine, partly

> anticipation from what everyone's said, partly the eerie dub sounds... It's

> *very* unusual - totally different from anything they've done in the last 30

> years. Harks back to that first EP. Great that they've taken a musical

> risk again - it's been far too long.

>

> (Just thinking that it's great that they have so much material. On

> previous "recent" albums, it's felt like they included pretty much

> everything available in order to fill an album.)

>

> Jaz's vocals on Ghosts are still a bit growly, but he is *singing* which is

> great.

>

> OK, now for the dub version. Sounds ....unsurprisingly.... like some of

> the stuff off the Killing Joke In Dub bootleg. And sorry Jaz, but I prefer

> it without vocals! Some wicked guitar in there. I could live without some

> of screechier siren noises, but overall it works really well. Love the way

> the guitar blasts in. This feckin' rocks!

>

> It's over. Time to press "Play" again. This reminds me of what it was

> like to get your hands on new Killing Joke record back in the eighties...

>

> By the way, mine is numbered 789. What about the rest of youse?

>

> Jamie

>

>

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: <jpwhkj at aol.com>jpwhkj at aol.com

> To: <gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net

> Sent: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:56

> Subject: at last...

>

> Nothing on Monday.

>

> Nothing on Tuesday.

>

> Nothing on Wednesday.

>

> Nothing on Thursday.

>

> But it arrived today.

>

> First thought: artwork looks better in my hands than on the web.

>

> Second thought: remove cassette from stereo and put on IE CD.

>

> Here we go...

>

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