[kj] at last...

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Fri Jun 25 14:25:20 EDT 2010



Jaz has been seen getting down to 'dancing queen' ;)



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From: rob.moss at gmx.com
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:21:41 +0100
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] at last...


Found it.


If it's the same as the cassettes it has a TTR dub an about 6 madness dubs.
Plus some untitled jams and a 12 minute dub version of Abba's Voulez
Though that last bit might be a fabrication. .

On 25 Jun 2010, at 18:09, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:




Well Rob if you still have it I'd love a copy.

As for planting the seed with Youth, if he can't remember what's on the band's new
release then I'd love to see his reaction when asked about some mixes he did 30 or so years ago...
still, perhaps only his short-term memory is shot!
But yes, they must be out there somewhere


On 25 June 2010 17:33, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:



Dunno




Will have a look when I get home.

I hope I've still got it after all this!




I remember feeling well and truly screwed when I played it as teh quality is somewhat iffy!





I recall in the dim and distant past someone saying that the plan was to release a dub version of WTF but EG said no.

Somewhere, all these mixes MUST exist. That would be a great thing to have in their full glory!





I'll mention it to Colesey and get him to plant the seed with Youth seeing as it's the original 4 again.......

















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From: jpwhkj at aol.com




Sent: 06/25/10 04:19 PM

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Rob - does yours include the WTF-era Skinner session?

Does anyone know when this was released? The material is all 79-81 (first ep->WTF) so presumably it was recorded in 81 or perhaps early 82, but I wonder if it was released (by Youth?) after the Joke split...

Just found my cassette copy, the full title given is: In Dub (Studio Out-takes)

Jamie





-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:23
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I bought a cd of it years back thinking it would be better quality than that which I had heard.


It isn't but you are welcome to a copy if you send me your address.


But no more of those naked pictures of yourself like last time eh?





On 25 Jun 2010, at 14:42, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:




Wow, thanks... Why am I only hearing of this now after 30 years of searching out every KJ-related item...

Anyone have a good-quality version of this?
N


On 25 June 2010 15:38, PHIL TOFIELD <phil.tofield at virgin.net> wrote:

its an old bootleg of 1st and 2nd album tracks remixed in a dub stylee by Youth. Ive got it on cassette somewhere. The mixes were pretty good, but the sound quality on the tape is very poor.





On 25 June 2010 13:40, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:


"stuff off the Killing Joke In Dub bootleg"

What's that then? Is it good? Do you have it? Can I have it? :)

N, still waiting for the postman (mine does involve international post, which makes me a bit nervous)





On 25 June 2010 13:26, <jpwhkj at aol.com> wrote:





Further thoughts, typed as I listen for the first time:

In Excelsis is much better on CD than the version we'd previously heard. I like it a lot.

Endgame still doesn't do it for me. Quite chuggy guitar; Jaz sings a bit, but quite growly vocals; not very catchy; no underlying funky vibe. I pressed "Next" before it was over, not 'cos it's really awful, but because I want to hear...

Kali Yuga is really powerful! Excellent singing from Jaz.

Ghosts is just starting... sending a shiver down my spine, partly anticipation from what everyone's said, partly the eerie dub sounds... It's *very* unusual - totally different from anything they've done in the last 30 years. Harks back to that first EP. Great that they've taken a musical risk again - it's been far too long.

(Just thinking that it's great that they have so much material. On previous "recent" albums, it's felt like they included pretty much everything available in order to fill an album.)

Jaz's vocals on Ghosts are still a bit growly, but he is *singing* which is great.

OK, now for the dub version. Sounds ....unsurprisingly.... like some of the stuff off the Killing Joke In Dub bootleg. And sorry Jaz, but I prefer it without vocals! Some wicked guitar in there. I could live without some of screechier siren noises, but overall it works really well. Love the way the guitar blasts in. This feckin' rocks!

It's over. Time to press "Play" again. This reminds me of what it was like to get your hands on new Killing Joke record back in the eighties...

By the way, mine is numbered 789. What about the rest of youse?

Jamie









-----Original Message-----
From: jpwhkj at aol.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:56
Subject: at last...



Nothing on Monday.

Nothing on Tuesday.

Nothing on Wednesday.

Nothing on Thursday.

But it arrived today.

First thought: artwork looks better in my hands than on the web.

Second thought: remove cassette from stereo and put on IE CD.

Here we go...

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