[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 82, Issue 68

Dominico C dominicoc at hotmail.com
Sun Jun 13 22:58:58 EDT 2010



I have to agree - Times have changes and I think the "New Joke" are far better than I have seen in the past 15 years!


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> 1. Re: The trouble is...... (fluw)

> 2. Jaz intrviewed by his super-hot New Zealand daughter - found

> it! (B. Oliver Sheppard)

> 3. Re: The trouble is...... (B. Oliver Sheppard)

> 4. Re: The trouble is...... (bongo)

> 5. Re: The trouble is...... (fluw)

> 6. Re: The trouble is...... (fluw)

> 7. Re: The trouble is...... (B. Oliver Sheppard)

> 8. Re: The trouble is...... (Floren Luke)

> 9. Re: The trouble is...... (GREG SLAWSON)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:29:29 -0500

> From: "fluw" <fluwdot at earthlink.net>

> Subject: Re: [kj] The trouble is......

> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"

> <gathering at misera.net>

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> Fluw said nothing of the sort,,it is "floren" that made the statement you

> are referring to.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

> Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard

> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 6:13 PM

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] The trouble is......

>

> My point: I am tired of "time warp"-ism.

>

> Nothing new after a) 1973, b) 1984, c) 1995. If some new band chances to

> come after those dates, they get dismissed alltoo easily as being mere

> shadows of the EA shit that oler folks were lucky enough to experience

> in their prime. but if you were born later? Well, you missed out. Sorry.

>

> The original comment was, "You are all waiting for another 'Wardance'

> [1979] to come along," from fluw. Many, MANY, "Wardances" have come

> along since the

>

> -0liver

>

>

> On 6/13/10 6:02 PM, TB wrote:

> >

> > I think you both are throwing a lot of silly, baseless assumptions at

> large groups of people here based on often inaccurate

> > interpretations of a few people's comments.

> >

> > T.B.

> >

> >

> >

>

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> Message: 2

> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:36:26 -0500

> From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

> Subject: [kj] Jaz intrviewed by his super-hot New Zealand daughter -

> found it!

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Message-ID: <4C156B7A.7080606 at sbcglobal.net>

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> http://www.3news.co.nz/Video/ExtendedVideo/tabid/315/articleID/60468/Default.aspx#video

>

> Great stuff. Jaz with his (hot) daughter. Awww. :)

>

> -0liver

>

>

> ------------------------------

>

> Message: 3

> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:38:32 -0500

> From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

> Subject: Re: [kj] The trouble is......

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Message-ID: <4C156BF8.1040707 at sbcglobal.net>

> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

>

> If it says "fluw" on the "reply to" thing, and if that's who the

> email/post is actually ascribed to, I reply to that person.

>

> I am not telepathic.

>

> -0liver

>

>

>

>

>

> On 6/13/10 6:29 PM, fluw wrote:

> >

> > Fluw said nothing of the sort,,it is "floren" that made the statement you

> > are referring to.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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>

> Message: 4

> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:41:54 +1200

> From: bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] The trouble is......

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Message-ID:

> <AANLkTimXfYOSrebQrjeJF4WoFFirM-kja4kn98-ri2nv at mail.gmail.com>

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>

> "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been

> postponed indefinitely..."

>

>

> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:12 AM, B. Oliver Sheppard <

> bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>

> The original comment was, "You are all waiting for another 'Wardance' [1979]

> > to come along," from fluw.

>

>

>

>

> from who?

>

> look again . . . =)

>

>

> ...and 'time-warp-isms' ?? perhaps re-read that first paragraph again...

>

> ":The trouble is that you are all expecting another "Wardance" to come

> along.

> You are all expecting each KJ release to have the same impact on you that

> Wardance did.

> Well, move on , times have changed . ":

>

> seems more like anti timewarp-isms...

>

>

>

> sounds like you have a sorepoint about being young and missing alot of the

> action!

>

> ah, those were the days, back then...

>

> =D

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> Message: 5

> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:56:45 -0500

> From: "fluw" <fluwdot at earthlink.net>

> Subject: Re: [kj] The trouble is......

> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Message-ID: <E1ONx2q-0002ar-G0 at elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

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>

> Yes the "reply to" thing quoted floren in the cut yet you stated

> differently, that is all the point being made.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

> Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard

> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 6:39 PM

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] The trouble is......

>

> If it says "fluw" on the "reply to" thing, and if that's who the

> email/post is actually ascribed to, I reply to that person.

>

> I am not telepathic.

>

> -0liver

>

>

>

>

>

> On 6/13/10 6:29 PM, fluw wrote:

> >

> > Fluw said nothing of the sort,,it is "floren" that made the statement you

> > are referring to.

> >

> >

> >

>

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> Message: 6

> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:58:42 -0500

> From: "fluw" <fluwdot at earthlink.net>

> Subject: Re: [kj] The trouble is......

> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Message-ID: <E1ONx4j-0004sk-47 at elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>

>

>

> Danke bongo

>

> ; )

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:12 AM, B. Oliver Sheppard

> <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>

>

>

> The original comment was, "You are all waiting for another 'Wardance' [1979]

> to come along," from fluw.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> from who?

>

>

>

> look again . . . =)

>

>

>

>

>

> ...and 'time-warp-isms' ?? perhaps re-read that first paragraph again...

>

>

>

> ":The trouble is that you are all expecting another "Wardance" to come

> along.

>

> You are all expecting each KJ release to have the same impact on you that

> Wardance did.

> Well, move on , times have changed . ":

>

>

>

> seems more like anti timewarp-isms...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> sounds like you have a sorepoint about being young and missing alot of the

> action!

>

>

>

> ah, those were the days, back then...

>

>

>

> =D

>

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> Message: 7

> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:57:43 -0500

> From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

> Subject: Re: [kj] The trouble is......

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

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> I regret missing the '66 garage punk explosion!

>

> I regret missing many musical explosions. But i am also, like Ian

> MackHay, very much against a super-laserlike focus on nostalgic "back in

> the day"/"sucks to b you to be born too late"-type bullshit. Last night

> hex Dispnesers played with Eddy Current Suppression ring in Austin. Two

> blocks away GBH played. I loved (and still do like) GBH. But many pople

> are stuck in a time warp. ECSR + Hex Dispnersers kickedso much ass. And

> it it isn't an "oldies" tour.

>

> I am sore about missing a LOT of the action (Minor Threat, etc.) - but

> great music is still being layed. The GBH show sapped away a lot o the

> "right people" (the "body odor punk corwd," as I call them). So the

> ECSR/Hex Dispensers MODERN (post-)-punk show had a good crowd while the

> folks who who had their German shepherds went to GBH. THANK GOD. It's 2010.

>

> I do have a sore point about missing the "real" stuff - we all do no? I

> just hate older elder-elitist folks who insist it's all been done under

> the sun before. Give me a break.

>

> -0liver

>

>

> >

> > seems more like anti timewarp-isms...

> >

> >

> >

> > sounds like you have a sorepoint about being young and missing alot

> > of the action!

> >

> > ah, those were the days, back then...

> >

> > =D

> >

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> Message: 8

> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:35:55 +0000

> From: Floren Luke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>

> Subject: Re: [kj] The trouble is......

> To: <gathering at misera.net>

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>

>

>

> My point wasn't about the quality of the song, it was about how a person relates to said song .

>

> Songs from the era of Killings Jokes inception were actually a new genre and original and anything done after that in that genre is , to a certain degree, copyist.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:12:50 -0500

> > From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Subject: Re: [kj] The trouble is......

> >

> > My point: I am tired of "time warp"-ism.

> >

> > Nothing new after a) 1973, b) 1984, c) 1995. If some new band chances to

> > come after those dates, they get dismissed alltoo easily as being mere

> > shadows of the EA shit that oler folks were lucky enough to experience

> > in their prime. but if you were born later? Well, you missed out. Sorry.

> >

> > The original comment was, "You are all waiting for another 'Wardance'

> > [1979] to come along," from fluw. Many, MANY, "Wardances" have come

> > along since the

> >

> > -0liver

> >

> >

> > On 6/13/10 6:02 PM, TB wrote:

> > >

> > > I think you both are throwing a lot of silly, baseless assumptions at large groups of people here based on often inaccurate

> > > interpretations of a few people's comments.

> > >

> > > T.B.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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> Message: 9

> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:12:36 -0400

> From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj] The trouble is......

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>

> Good point. I see what Ollie and TB and others are saying-the music is as good or maybe even better that the "old days" but in the old days much of it was radically original, and

>

> there was a feeling in the air that is hard to replicate.

>

>

>

> From: fluke1 at live.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:35:55 +0000

> Subject: Re: [kj] The trouble is......

>

>

>

>

>

> My point wasn't about the quality of the song, it was about how a person relates to said song .

> Songs from the era of Killings Jokes inception were actually a new genre and original and anything done after that in that genre is , to a certain degree, copyist.

>

>

>

>

> > Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:12:50 -0500

> > From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Subject: Re: [kj] The trouble is......

> >

> > My point: I am tired of "time warp"-ism.

> >

> > Nothing new after a) 1973, b) 1984, c) 1995. If some new band chances to

> > come after those dates, they get dismissed alltoo easily as being mere

> > shadows of the EA shit that oler folks were lucky enough to experience

> > in their prime. but if you were born later? Well, you missed out. Sorry.

> >

> > The original comment was, "You are all waiting for another 'Wardance'

> > [1979] to come along," from fluw. Many, MANY, "Wardances" have come

> > along since the

> >

> > -0liver

> >

> >

> > On 6/13/10 6:02 PM, TB wrote:

> > >

> > > I think you both are throwing a lot of silly, baseless assumptions at large groups of people here based on often inaccurate

> > > interpretations of a few people's comments.

> > >

> > > T.B.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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