[kj] NYC Reviews?

ceplaster at aol.com ceplaster at aol.com
Sun Dec 5 18:51:53 EST 2010


I respectfully disagree with the one-note live band thing. While they absolutely are a loud live band, the one-note thing comes as much from the sound man as it does from them. At last nights show in Boston, There was more dimensionality coming off the stage than was coming through the pa. As far as live mixing goes, the more you try to push guitar and bass guitar so you can really hear what they are doing, the more complicated the mixing gets. A lot of live sound guys avoid that so that their mixes sound cleaner and more "pro", at least to them. Also, the bigger the venue, the messier guitar heavy mixes start to sound. There is definitely an art to mixing this way, and it is not the easiest way to mix a band. In any case, with KJ, if the guitar and the bass aren't mixed loud and clear, you miss a lot of what is going on. - CP





-----Original Message-----
From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sun, Dec 5, 2010 12:45 pm
Subject: Re: [kj] NYC Reviews?


I think another issue w/the set lists is live, KJ are somewhat a different being than on record. They've recored albums w/several different
not just styles, but moods, feels, attitiudes, etc (for ex, the weird dissonance of Revelations, the accessibility of BTATS, the arty hard rock of Extremities,
the trance/metal of Pandemonium, the ultra serious apocalyptic metal of 2003, etc. BUt live they're a one-note band--all about the volume, force,
wall of sound, catharsis. So they tend to pick the songs for live shows that fit w/that!


Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 22:41:08 +0000
From: phil.tofield at virgin.net
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] NYC Reviews?


Spot on...

unlikely though


On 5 December 2010 22:34, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:




Just once .... I'd love to hear "Chop Chop" and "Let's All Go (To the Fire Dances)". Just once.


Alex in NYC






On Dec 5, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Wessidetempest wrote:



They did do king and queens on pandemonium tour.
Devils advocate here.
They toured the shit out of extremities before and after the album came out. So maybe they're sick of it.
I took would like stuff off of revelations.
Don't really care about wardance much anymore. Requiem still gives me chills. I still live the guitar and keyboard riff. I'm glad they arenfinally easing up on pandemonium. I liked 2003 so id prefer something other then asteroid. Hell give me one song off of hosannas just because we never got it in the states.


Oh well. Beggars can't be choosers. But beggars can be gatherers.


Chris



On Dec 5, 2010, at 3:43 PM, PHIL TOFIELD <phil.tofield at virgin.net> wrote:




It kind of pisses me off that they seem to completely disregard about 90% of their back catalogue now. Nothing from Revelations, nothing from Fire Dances, nothing from Brighter, nothing from Extremities (I never really liked Extremities era, but Termite Mound was great live), nothing from OTG (cough....), nothing from Democracy....

It would be good if they'd throw in a couple of curve-balls now and again though, Darkness Before Dawn, Song and Dance, The Hum, Twilight of the Mortals, Kings and Queens, Pandys, the full rap version of Stay One Jump Ahead....

(ok strike that last one...)

Im not complaining, its great that they are still touring and are still sounding so good live, but do they absolutely have to play Wardance/Pssyche/Requiem et al. at every single gig? A bit of variety from the back catalogue wouldn't go amis.

Good to hear that the gigs are going down well over the pond.

On 5 December 2010 13:47, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:




I know Youth didn't play on the album, but would it KILL the band to play a track off of FIRE DANCES? Youth didn't play on NIGHTTIME and they still do "Love Like Blood" and "Eighties."


Alex in NYC








On Dec 4, 2010, at 8:55 PM, sade1 wrote:







Same here.
Though I'm not thrilled by that setlist (30 fuckin' years[32+!!]of work and that's what they choose??) I will prolly go see them because I am getting the impression this will be the last time we will see them Live.





From: "LONESTYLE at aol.com" <LONESTYLE at aol.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 12:00:47 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] NYC Reviews?


Alex,


That will be us too when they play LA. Just enough time for a pee and a drink plus maybe a smoke too if we are lucky. ;) HA!


~ LB




In a message dated 12/4/2010 11:54:33 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, vassifer at earthlink.net writes:

"This World Hell" was my going-to-the-men's-room-then-getting-another-beer song.







In a message dated 12/4/2010 8:34:33 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk writes:
SET LIST.

Tomorrow's World
Love Like Blood
Absolute Dissent
Wardance
In Excelsis
Bloodsport
European Superstate
Madness
Fall of Because
Ghosts of Ladbroke Grove
Eighties
The Great Cull
The Wait
This World Hell
Requiem
Asteroid
Pssyche

Change
Complications
Pandemonium








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