[kj] KJ 2010 Tour Support:

[sade1]

> ..Killing Joke have always used electronics as just another instrument,....


Yes, but never like "just another..". Their synth use is inextricable from their 
talent and sound, from Them, despite what instrument/s any given listener may or 
may not emphasize in their own minds/ears.  I'll even venture to speculate that 
Killing Joke neither would 1) sound as they do/did, nor  2) even would have 
developed, extended or expounded their talent/s as KJ has come along, without 
the electronics in the writing process and in the final output. Killing Joke 
would not be the same: they need much more than only guitar and drums to realize 
the/ir 'sound of the Earth vomiting.'  



> ..their keyboard players are often unnamed and standing in the dark on the side 

>of the state).


But it's not cuz the electronics are unimportant. This (the above) is 
unfortunately a tragic by-product of Jaz's heady insecurity and narcissism and 
nothing else. That an Other could be hired to do Jaz's work... and, be good 
enough, god forbid, to merit some credit/'limelight' of their own for it? Oh 
hell No, sayeth Jaz. 

Sadly, it's been seen that Jaz at times can barely even stand the band to take 
the fore and so he steals all the photons within a 2-mile radius, to the 
detriment of the band and the music. Witness any video, interview, performance, 
trailer, what have you. 


That, and I second what Jamie says about it, too.



 

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From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sat, July 31, 2010 10:51:15 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ 2010 Tour Support:

Yeah, BUT--those 2 songs use the electronics as an embellishment, an extra 
component. Requium and FTL still have the pounding (real) drums, searing (real) 
guitar, and dubby, pulsing (real) bass guitar.
With the exception of the 2 crap albums, OTG and BTATS, Killing Joke have always 
used electronics as just another instrument, not the whole package (that's why 
their keyboard players are often unnamed
and standing in the dark on the side of the state).
 
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 19:35:25 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ 2010 Tour Support:



> ..in a minority on the list here, in liking electronic music...


That would be tragic more don't, and with a full Chelsea-Clinton-wedding 
size cake of irony in order then, since, the first song on the first 
ever Killing Joke album has nothing but an electronic pulse (not only) opening 
the song, (but also) sustaining it throughout and, at end, closing it (the 
song). 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzG_S-GwAIo

P.S. the first thing I evern noticed and liked about Killing Joke were the 
opening rhythms and keyboards of Follow The Leaders.. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h92iB9WJ1Lc





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From: folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 11:30:36 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ 2010 Tour Support:

I just think that 'we' are in a minority on the list here, in liking electronic 
music for starters...unfortunately it seems to translate to liking 'Trance' or 
'House'...you know, that of the mass market variety..
 
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:17:38 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: vassifer at earthlink.net; gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ 2010 Tour Support:


I think everyone's missing the point (or just having a damn good humourous stab 
at djs). Just like nobody ever bought a record towatch it spin (not even a 
Killing Joke album), nobody ever goes to a club to watch the dj. Ever. 

Watching him has nothing to do with what he does to the place. Just like no 
one ever turned on the radio (in its early years) to watch the radio but instead 
to let the story being told take you to an awesome place (think 'War Of The 
Worlds'). Also, no one ever went to an ancient storyteller just to watch him, 
but instead to trip out on his magickal storytelling talents that can take you 
to 'a much better place.' Only with a quality-dj/club you do the same for $20 + 
2drink.minimum. 

 
And yes, there is something magickal-squared to an awesome live performance that 
makes it better, IMO, than any dj gig and is why I will always prefer live gigs, 
but still, a good DJ who can really "carry a room" (and for, say, 4hrs. vs. 
a 90min. gig) is very much worth paying for also.  



... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Who has the fun.. 
  ..is it always a man with a gun...? 
    Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat" 




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