[kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke

Stephen Lawrence stephen.l at live.com
Sat Mar 28 06:43:47 EDT 2009



thanks for sharing the info exo



Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:38:33 -0400
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/holocaust/filmmore/reference/primary/index.html#pres
http://www.americanheritage.com/immigration/articles/magazine/ah/1999/4/1999_4_34.shtml
http://wymaninstitute.org/bombedauschwitz.php

And this is just a tiny smattering. Lots of opinions. Lots of blame. I don't think I can come to an official
conclusion with the vast amount of data out there on this unless I sat down for a really really long time
and read every damned thing.

Blame lies on everything from indifference, to policy, to feasibility.

At 09:21 PM 3/27/2009, sade1 wrote:

I agree too if it were just the Brits, and I know those air raids
verged on suicide runs a lot of the time, but, how about for the Allies
as a group? Was hindering the camps and movement of prisoners
really outside their capabilities, or did the Allies prioritize things
differently?



> we gave a the Germans a few more years to implement the

> final solution ................that is what you would like to hear, isn't it ?

Nooooooope. was just asking the question.


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From: ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 5:59:39 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke

You know saulomar1, I have to agree with Pete...



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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of fluke fluke

Sent: 28 March 2009 00:54

To: gathering at misera.net

Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke


Thats right Hitler and Churchill signed a pact in 1939 to wipe out the Jewish race, Britain could have won WW2 in 1943, but we gave a the Germans a few more years to implement the final solution ................that is what you would like to hear, isn't it ?

The reality is that the U.K . had a shortage of both Pilots and Bombers and raw materials to make the bombers .

Bombing raid were also very dangerous , aeroplanes and Pilots were lost on every sortie . Shot out the skys by the Germans . We had to choose out targets carefully , every mission had a price to pay.

The full horrors of the concentrations camps were still not fully known . It ws also hard to hit a railway track with the bombs they had back then, they just dropped them and hoped for the best .

Bombing a railway track or a German tank making factory . Which one has priority ?

With the War in full flow and the outcome still unsure, the U.K. had to make sure that we won the war . The main priority was saving our own asses










Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:41:57 -0700

From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

To: gathering at misera.net

Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke




> ..was the U.K that also put a stop to concentration camps.


I could be wrong on this but didn't the Allies let the camps sit n' stew

for a few years first, not even bothering to bomb the rail lines and depots, etc.

that could've slowed the death rates at those camps?










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From: fluke fluke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>

To: gathering at misera.net

Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 12:09:52 PM

Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke






It was the U.K that also put a stop to concentration camps.

Ending slavery, destroying Nazism and Fascism and disposing of a dictator.

Does any other Country have a better CV than that ?
















From: folk.devil at hotmail.com

To: gathering at misera.net

Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:03:16 -0700

Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke


Ever the wind-up merchant, hey Pete?

Now condone concentration camps.

You can also try to gain the support of many Irish, Scots and Welsh when you bracket them all as a UNITED Kingdom.

Now that is far too much troll fodder..




From: fluke1 at live.co.uk

To: gathering at misera.net

Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:57:52 +0000

Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke




You mean the slave trade which Britain fought to abolish ? The slave trade that went on for hundreds of years between Africa and Arabia before Britain joined in ? The slave trade in which Africans participated in by selling their fellow Countrymen to Foreigners.?

The U.K. did not start slavery and we were the first Country to abolish it .

Slavery still goes on to this day , you can buy a Congolese Man for about U.S.$100 in a Congolese market .

The U.K.s record on Slavery is quite good , compared to other Countries .












From: stephen.l at live.com

To: gathering at misera.net

Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 04:41:25 +0000

Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke


i second that ..britain has nothing to be proud of ...stole most of the worlds riches then brags about how it brought civilisation to the world oh and let's not forget then slave trade ..in fact on reflection not much better than the roman empire just a bit more devious





From: folk.devil at hotmail.com

To: gathering at misera.net

Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:11:22 -0700

Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke


He speaks like a typical Tory with a plum up his bum.

Maybe he has a few points, but it is the same crap as in the US, everyone pointing fingers and not working 'a way out'. Highlighting some scary consequences, e.g. education..but the problems there are not new, as they are not new in the US. In fact, i think a big underlying factor to all of what is happening right now, has been the neglect of a good education system, for decades..

A lot of Britain's problems come from America having held them by the nads for so long. 30 years ago the EU might have been a good idea. And I am not into that proud to be British, Nationalistic BS.




Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:01:17 -0700

From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

To: gathering at misera.net

Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke


Is Daniel Hannan's accent the usual for S.E.Eng. or is it from somewhere else?



Now if only U.S.Presidents would be spoken to as directly...





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