[kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke

[The Exorcist]

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/holocaust/filmmore/reference/primary/index.html#pres
http://www.americanheritage.com/immigration/articles/magazine/ah/1999/4/1999_4_34.shtml
http://wymaninstitute.org/bombedauschwitz.php

And this is just a tiny smattering. Lots of 
opinions. Lots of blame. I don't think I can come to an official
conclusion with the vast amount of data out there 
on this unless I sat down for a really really long time
and read every damned thing.

Blame lies on everything from indifference, to policy, to feasibility.

At 09:21 PM 3/27/2009, sade1 wrote:

>    I agree too if it were just the Brits, and I know those air raids

>verged on suicide runs a lot of the time, but, how about for the Allies

>as a group? Was hindering the camps and movement of prisoners

>really outside their capabilities, or did the Allies prioritize things

>differently?

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> > we gave a the Germans a few more years to implement the

> > final solution ................that is what 

> you would like to hear, isn't it ?

>Nooooooope. was just asking the question.

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>[looking at the current state of things..]

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>'Save me...

>   save me from Tomorrow..

>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'

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>From: ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>

>Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 5:59:39 PM

>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke

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>You know saulomar1, I have to agree with Pete...

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>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net 

>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of fluke fluke

>Sent: 28 March 2009 00:54

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke

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>Thats right Hitler and Churchill signed a pact 

>in 1939 to wipe out the Jewish race, Britain 

>could have won WW2 in 1943, but we gave a the 

>Germans a few more years to implement the final 

>solution ................that is what you would like to hear, isn't it ?

>    The reality is that the U.K . had a shortage 

> of both Pilots and Bombers and raw materials to make the bombers .

>    Bombing raid were also very dangerous , 

> aeroplanes and Pilots were lost on every sortie 

> . Shot out the skys by the Germans . We had to 

> choose out targets carefully , every mission had a price to pay.

>    The full horrors of the concentrations camps 

> were still not fully known . It ws also hard to 

> hit a railway track with the bombs they had 

> back then, they just dropped them and hoped for the best .

>   Bombing a railway track or a German tank 

> making factory . Which one has priority ?

>With the War in full flow and the outcome still 

>unsure, the U.K. had to make sure that we won 

>the war . The main priority was saving our own asses

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>Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:41:57 -0700

>From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke

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> >  ..was the U.K that  also put a stop to concentration camps.

>   I could be wrong on this but didn't the Allies let the camps sit n' stew

>for a few years first, not even bothering to 

>bomb the rail lines and depots, etc.

>that could've slowed the death rates at those camps?

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>[looking at the current state of things..]

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>'Save me...

>   save me from Tomorrow..

>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'

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>From: fluke fluke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 12:09:52 PM

>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke

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>It was the U.K that  also put a stop to concentration camps.

>Ending slavery, destroying Nazism and Fascism and disposing of a dictator.

>Does any other Country have a better CV than that ?

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>From: folk.devil at hotmail.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:03:16 -0700

>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke

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>Ever the wind-up merchant, hey Pete?

>Now condone concentration camps.

>You can also try to gain the support of many 

>Irish, Scots and Welsh when you bracket them all as a UNITED Kingdom.

>Now that is far too much troll fodder..

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>From: fluke1 at live.co.uk

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:57:52 +0000

>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke

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>  You mean the slave trade which Britain fought 

> to abolish ? The slave trade that went on for 

> hundreds of years between Africa and Arabia 

> before Britain joined in ? The slave trade in 

> which Africans participated in by selling their 

> fellow Countrymen to Foreigners.?

>    The U.K. did not start slavery and we were 

> the first Country to abolish it .

>Slavery still goes on to this day , you can buy 

>a Congolese Man for about U.S.$100 in a Congolese market .

>   The U.K.s  record on Slavery is quite good , compared to other Countries .

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>From: stephen.l at live.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 04:41:25 +0000

>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke

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>i second that ..britain has nothing to be proud 

>of ...stole most of the worlds riches then brags 

>about how it brought civilisation to the world 

>oh and let's not forget then slave trade ..in 

>fact on reflection not much better than the 

>roman empire just a bit more devious

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>From: folk.devil at hotmail.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:11:22 -0700

>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke

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>He speaks like a typical Tory with a plum up his bum.

>Maybe he has a few points, but it is the same 

>crap as in the US, everyone pointing fingers and 

>not working 'a way out'. Highlighting some scary 

>consequences, e.g. education..but the problems 

>there are not new, as they are not new in the 

>US. In fact,  i think a big underlying factor to 

>all of what is happening right now, has been the 

>neglect of a good education system, for decades..

>A lot of  Britain's problems come from America 

>having held them by the nads for so long. 30 

>years ago the EU might have been a good idea. 

>And I am not into that proud to be British, Nationalistic BS.

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>Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:01:17 -0700

>From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The U.S. is broke

>

>Is Daniel Hannan's accent the usual for S.E.Eng. 

>or is it from somewhere else?

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>Now if only U.S.Presidents would be spoken to as directly...

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>[looking at the current state of things..]

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>'Save me...

>   save me from Tomorrow..

>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'

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