[kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

[The Exorcist]

I must admit, being called "dear" is far more 
touching than numskull knumbskull. (Yeah I know,
I'm beating it into the ground. I'll drop it). 
I'm getting this mushy feeling inside.

I should get my glasses upgraded but I just don't 
have the time right now.(You a clairvoyant?)

I was not quick to attack you, I was quick to 
defend Brendan. Did I miss the LOL? No.
Am I dense? Maybe.

Let's just say that "Stephen Lawrence" has a past 
history of being quick on the attack and if I recall correctly
you had some choice words for Brendan (and 
others) a few months ago. Something about a discussion over "metal" or
shit like that.

With that in mind the "lol" just did not come off 
(to me at least) as quite genuine.
I might be wrong. If I was... my bad. I'll own up to it. Ain't no one perfect.

Regarding your issue with me not responding. 
Believe it or not, there are times when I have nothing to say.
(Yeah, I know it's rare when it comes to politics 
and ideology). Being that I've never seen "witness" and not knowing
anything about it, I find it difficult and 
frankly quite stupid to reply to it. I try not to 
talk about things that I know nothing off.

Lovingly yours, (one good turn deserves another ehh?)
Exo


At 11:44 PM 3/19/2009, Stephen Lawrence wrote:

>oh dear exo did you not see the laugh out loud 

>at the end of my stastement [ looks like brendan 

>didn't see it either ] you guys should gret your 

>glasses upgraded  anyway ive noticed how you are 

>quick to atack me but ignore or refuse to pass 

>comment on any of my observations as a result i 

>just read and delete most times in fact ther has 

>been only 3 gatherers to actually send positive 

>responses oh well different folks and all that

>

>

>----------

>Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:23:13 -0400

>From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>

>I am damn proud to say that I am acquainted with 

>Brendan though we disagree on just about everything.

>

>Over the years on "The Gathering" he has been 

>one of the most consistent, active, and open contributor to this list.

>

>If I would go through the past Email's and copy 

>his statements here you'd be amazed by his insight and witticisms.

>I think I'd even be so bold as to say he is 

>probably the wittiest Gatherer on the list and has a  way with words that I

>only wish I had. (you can spot them by all my lengthy and wordy responses)

>

>Why you had to point out his name is beyond my 

>scope nor is it beneficial to any sort of discussion. If you have

>an issue, state it. The last line added nothing 

>other than just trashing someone for stating something you find

>wrong/silly/stupid/whatever.

>

>If you would have left that out Brendan's name, 

>he would just as much have responded and try to explain his statement.

>I assure you.

>

>Have a good day Stephen.

>

>At 06:37 AM 3/19/2009, Stephen Lawrence wrote:

>like the fact that you mentioned the movie 

>witness there is proof that living by bible 

>teaching works and before people on here bleat 

>about no car or i-pods it's a funny thing that 

>humans don't miss what they never had the human 

>spirit can transcend the aquisition of material 

>things MINOG keep the debate going guys a lot of 

>you have risen in my estimation except brendan lol

>

>

>

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>From: gregslawson at msn.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:06:28 -0400

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>

>Why wouldn't they be able to? (See the movie 

>"Witness" if you really think people can't 

>cooperate). You always get a few who don't fit 

>in with anyone else, but as a comrade once said 

>"for the people who want to live in the woods 

>all by themselves, we can figure out something for them too".

>

>

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>Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:53:00 -0400

>From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>

>And what if one can't work cooperatively?

>

>At 09:54 PM 3/17/2009, GREG SLAWSON wrote:

>I agree Brenden, and for 2 reasons:

>1. Humans have thing called brains and can 

>control their own behavior to an extent and

>2. Working cooperatively is the best way to go!

>Greg

>

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>From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:44:44 +1100

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>

>I read the other day that just over 50% of 

>Americans donate time to volunteer causes, an 

>average of 4.2 hours a week (sounds a little 

>high to me but who knows

most countries are 

>fucked up enough to need all the help they can 

>get). So the idea that ‘humans are inherently 

>selfish,’ that the corrupt will always end up in 

>power

doesn’t hold any water for me. In fact no 

>other species really comes close to us in terms 

>of our altruism and relationships.

>

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>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

><mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] 

>On Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON

>Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2009 03:31

>To: gathering

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>

>People are always willing to parrot plattitudes 

>they've learned from anti-communist teachers, 

>parents, etc., w/o really thinking about them. 

>But in the US there is a nightly segment on nbc 

>news about how, in the tough economy, there is 

>an outpouring of people helping each other, 

>doing things for free, giving more to the less 

>fortunate, etc., w/o looking for any praise or 

>payback. And don't forget that we've never lived 

>in a time when poeple in power are prevented 

>form being corrupt, so how can we know if 

>everyone in power will automatically be corrupt?

>

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>From: folk.devil at hotmail.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:30:35 -0700

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>I find it interesting when some people term 

>humanity as some form of parasite. Do these 

>people include themselves in the analogy, or 

>not? If yes, do they use the idea as some form 

>of condonation for not giving a sh*t?

>There is a trend, particularly in industrial 

>music, to adopt this idea....hell of a way to 

>perpetuate the inert, or do they feel that they 

>are in touch with the zeitgeist?

>

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>From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:22:44 +1100

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

><http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1655415,00.html>http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1655415,00.html 

>

>

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>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

><mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] 

>On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence

>Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:31

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>

>mankind has and continues to rule to the 

>detriment of others . Any leader showing 

>compassion is usually assassinated.Power 

>corrupts and usually those at the top are 

>moulded and coersed by the host of sychophants 

>and other manipulators who have thier own agenda 

>.  No doubt i will be scoffed and jeered at when 

>i say that mankind is incapable of looking after 

>himself and the world will only change for the 

>better when jesus comes to right the wrongs 

>...remember how they laughed at the people 

>attempting to make flight possible ...i rest my case

>

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>From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:01:15 +0000

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>

>  and there has to a way to recall leaders when 

> they do try to climb above others...

>

>  Like a coup or an asassination? I wish i had 

> your faith, but 99% of the time, those that 

> rise to the top make damn sure they can stay 

> there. You can never stop those that wish to 

> suceed at the expense of others, "feather the 

> nest and fuck the rest" etc. The concept of a 

> council like the Roman senate was supposed to 

> keep things fair and right but ultimately 

> backhanders, coersion and corruption take over, 

> all to satisfy the greedy few, and those Wolves 

> ALWAYS come dressed in Sheeps clothing.

>

>Nah, i think i'l just stick to treating people 

>like i want to be treated myself and hope it eventually rubs off on everyone.

>

>Keep dreaming Jel.

>

>Over and out

>

>Jelski

>

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>From: gregslawson at msn.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:36:00 -0400

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>That's the key--how to keep people from being 

>top of the pile and ripping others off. The 

>decision-making has to be collectivized and 

>people have to be accountable (the opposite of 

>the US bankers) and there has to a way to recall 

>leaders when they do try to climb above others...

>

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>From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:59:07 +0000

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>(w/communist distribution of goods and services according to need).

>

>And WHO decides who needs what? There's always 

>someone at the top of the pile. Great in theory, sadly lacking in practice.

>

>  Jelski

>

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>From: gregslawson at msn.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:27:30 -0400

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>Funny, the Progressive Labor Party advocates a 

>future revolutionary society in which we operate 

>without money! (w/communist distribution of 

>goods and services according to need). Maybe Jaz will join!

>

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>From: gasw30 at hotmail.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:19:35 +0000

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>Presumably Jaz's talk will centre on his upcoming book:

>

> From Jaz's entry on the wikipedia site (I don't 

> think it's been mentioned here yet, but apols etc).

>

>Coleman is writing a book about permaculture, 

>free energy, freedom and freedom-loving 

>individuals. The main thesis is on how to 

>survive without money. The book will be divided 

>into two parts; one part concentrating on the 

>music and other on the ideas behind 

>it.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-9> 

><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-9>[10] 

>The book is planned to be published in 2009. 

><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-10>[11]

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>From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:09:36 +0000

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>but bob we may not be able to contain laughter ;D)))

>

>i will ask as well for free,i dont care lol

>

>milindafgrant

>

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>From: bbarathy at btinternet.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:32:16 +0000

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>If I go up then you're not allowed to snigger 

>behind me! Or blowpipe me in the back with chewed up paper

>

>boBToo

><http://www.killingjoke.co.uk/>www.killingjoke.co.uk

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>Behalf Of Phillipps Marc

>Sent: 13 March 2009 16:15

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

> >part of what keeps us all interested.

>And constantly frustrated

>I have a crisp £5 note for the first person to 

>ask him about Gems of Power at the London do :o)

>Marc.

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