[kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

[Brendan Quinn]

Totally agree that the 2-party system is a joke, all this right vs left
debate is pretty pointless really, a distraction from the real issue, that
the political system itself is corrupt and useless.

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
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Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 14:05
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Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

 

As opposed to standard fascism and socialism?

Obama chose to make Rush his nemesis. When did you ever see the America
White House go after by name
Radio, TV and Media personalities? Did you maybe not hear about the White
House meetings and phone calls 
with Carville, Begala, Rahm Emanual and who knows who else (on American Tax
Payers dime mind you).

When ppl. accused the Bush house of giving talking to points to FOX, all
hell broke loose. Now nary a peep.
The shit is hitting the fan all over the place and everything the Obama
administration has put their foot into is
turning into a shitfest.

The Rush controversy most definitely helped create a diversion for a short
period of time. When Obama goes after Sean Hannity
I say to myself "Why the fuck are you wasting your time with this? Your
record will be the answer to the debate, not going after some
damned pundit!" 

Obama's "ideology" is all over the place, I don't think anyone knows where
it lies. Though things are starting to peek through.

Obama wants to close Gitmo but allows rendition. Unmanned bombers flying
over the border into Pakistan dropping loads? Check. 
Just like Bush. He's a walking mishmosh. 

He wants to bring universal health care, he care for people you know. Right?
That's why he was gonna fuck over the wounded Vets with health insurance.
(All hell broke loose and he just recanted his position.)
He chose to not even discuss it when he was in the meeting the folks from
the Legion.

Obama's reaction to the "white mans Katrina" Kentucky Ice storm. Look up on
the effects of that storm, how many ppl. had
to leave their houses, had no gas no electricity in freezing weather and how
much help they got from the Obama administration. 
Would it be ok for me to daresay that Obama hates white people?

To quote Fred Reed:
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"While the United States is freer and more democratic than many countries,
it is not, I think, either as free or as democratic as we are expected to
believe, and becomes rapidly less so. Indeed we seem to be specialists in
maintaining the appearance without having the substance. Regarding the
techniques of which, a few thoughts:

(1) Free speech does not exist in America. We all know what we can't say and
about whom we can't say it.

(2) A democracy run by two barely distinguishable parties is not in fact a
democracy. 

A parliamentary democracy allows expression of a range of points of view: An
ecological candidate may be elected, along with a communist, a
racial-separatist, and a libertarian. These will make sure their ideas are
at least heard. By contrast, the two-party system prevents expression of any
ideas the two parties agree to suppress. How much open discussion do you
hear during presidential elections of, for example, race, immigration,
abortion, gun control, and the continuing abolition of Christianity? These
are the issues most important to most people, yet are quashed.

The elections do however allow the public a sense of participation while
having the political importance of the Superbowl.
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Splitting American into 2 countries never quite crossed my radar. So I can't
really comment on that.
Nor have I given it much thought.

People try to create bogeyman where none exist. It's always been that way.
Give them something to fight and they'll
rally behind you. If they don't have anything to attack they might just give
you personal scrutiny. Or they just feel empty.

Remember, Bogeyman do not exist.

Ps, I'm surprised how you can harbor such anger towards rush when there are
so many better targets to go after.
Say... Murderers, Rapists, Bombers, Radical psychos who physically HARM ppl.
(Politicians? *grin*)

At 09:27 PM 3/18/2009, folk devil wrote:




>From corporate fascism to corporate socialism.

Rush Limbaugh is now etched into the American psyche. He is Obama's
ideological nemesis, and also serves to reinforce Obama's own ideologies.
People gotta make an informed decision, ya know..or at least believe they
are ;)
Even by turning Rush off he has served as reactionary towards you.
What happened to that idea of America splitting into 2 countries; the Red
middle and Blue surrounds..?
They're not politicians but Businessmen dressed as actors, and I'm not sure
that in a two party system debate/opinion and actions will work. It will
just keep the pendulum swinging left and right. 

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From: The Exorcist <mailto:killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com>  

To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:10 PM 

Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word 

Not defending anyone. Notice I referred to Rush when using the term "Moral
Compass" . 

The point I was trying to make is when you disagree with someone why not
defeat the person 

based on debate/opinion and actions. Not on the concept of "ohhh I hope
he/she fucks up". 

If you (not YOU per se) need that type of occurrence to happen in order to
point out flaws 

it is a sign that you simply can't beat them and that you can't prove them
wrong.



 

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