[kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

The Exorcist killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
Wed Mar 18 23:05:00 EDT 2009


As opposed to standard fascism and socialism?

Obama chose to make Rush his nemesis. When did
you ever see the America White House go after by name
Radio, TV and Media personalities? Did you maybe
not hear about the White House meetings and phone calls
with Carville, Begala, Rahm Emanual and who knows
who else (on American Tax Payers dime mind you).

When ppl. accused the Bush house of giving
talking to points to FOX, all hell broke loose. Now nary a peep.
The shit is hitting the fan all over the place
and everything the Obama administration has put their foot into is
turning into a shitfest.

The Rush controversy most definitely helped
create a diversion for a short period of time.
When Obama goes after Sean Hannity
I say to myself "Why the fuck are you wasting
your time with this? Your record will be the
answer to the debate, not going after some
damned pundit!"

Obama's "ideology" is all over the place, I don't
think anyone knows where it lies. Though things are starting to peek through.

Obama wants to close Gitmo but allows rendition.
Unmanned bombers flying over the border into Pakistan dropping loads? Check.
Just like Bush. He's a walking mishmosh.

He wants to bring universal health care, he care for people you know. Right?
That's why he was gonna fuck over the wounded
Vets with health insurance. (All hell broke loose
and he just recanted his position.)
He chose to not even discuss it when he was in
the meeting the folks from the Legion.

Obama's reaction to the "white mans Katrina"
Kentucky Ice storm. Look up on the effects of that storm, how many ppl. had
to leave their houses, had no gas no electricity
in freezing weather and how much help they got from the Obama administration.
Would it be ok for me to daresay that Obama hates white people?

To quote Fred Reed:
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"While the United States is freer and more
democratic than many countries, it is not, I
think, either as free or as democratic as we are
expected to believe, and becomes rapidly less so.
Indeed we seem to be specialists in maintaining
the appearance without having the substance.
Regarding the techniques of which, a few thoughts:

(1) Free speech does not exist in America. We all
know what we can’t say and about whom we can’t say it.

(2) A democracy run by two barely distinguishable
parties is not in fact a democracy.

A parliamentary democracy allows expression of a
range of points of view: An ecological candidate
may be elected, along with a communist, a
racial-separatist, and a libertarian. These will
make sure their ideas are at least heard. By
contrast, the two-party system prevents
expression of any ideas the two parties agree to
suppress. How much open discussion do you hear
during presidential elections of, for example,
race, immigration, abortion, gun control, and the
continuing abolition of Christianity? These are
the issues most important to most people, yet are quashed.

The elections do however allow the public a sense
of participation while having the political importance of the Superbowl.
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Splitting American into 2 countries never quite
crossed my radar. So I can't really comment on that.
Nor have I given it much thought.

People try to create bogeyman where none exist.
It's always been that way. Give them something to fight and they'll
rally behind you. If they don't have anything to
attack they might just give you personal scrutiny. Or they just feel empty.

Remember, Bogeyman do not exist.

Ps, I'm surprised how you can harbor such anger
towards rush when there are so many better targets to go after.
Say... Murderers, Rapists, Bombers, Radical
psychos who physically HARM ppl. (Politicians? *grin*)

At 09:27 PM 3/18/2009, folk devil wrote:

> From corporate fascism to corporate socialism.

>Rush Limbaugh is now etched into the American

>psyche. He is Obama's ideological nemesis, and

>also serves to reinforce Obama's own ideologies.

>People gotta make an informed decision, ya

>know..or at least believe they are ;)

>Even by turning Rush off he has served as reactionary towards you.

>What happened to that idea of America splitting

>into 2 countries; the Red middle and Blue surrounds..?

>They're not politicians but Businessmen dressed

>as actors, and I'm not sure that in a two party

>system debate/opinion and actions will work. It

>will just keep the pendulum swinging left and right.

>

>

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>From: <mailto:killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com>The Exorcist

>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>A list about

>all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:10 PM

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>Not defending anyone. Notice I referred to Rush

>when using the term "Moral Compass" .

>The point I was trying to make is when you

>disagree with someone why not defeat the person

>based on debate/opinion and actions. Not on the

>concept of "ohhh I hope he/she fucks up".

>If you (not YOU per se) need that type of

>occurrence to happen in order to point out flaws

>it is a sign that you simply can't beat them and

>that you can't prove them wrong.

>

>

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