[kj] OT - MJ Conclusion

Darren A. Peace dpeace at bigfoot.com
Tue Jun 30 14:54:18 EDT 2009


Two of the three will have been released two years ago; the other will be
there for another eight. Sentencing within the guidelines, but I can't help
but wish they've been vigorously ass-raped throughout.



Darren

Hungerford, UK



From: Karen Weil [mailto:karen.weil at sddt.com]
Sent: 30 June 2009 7:29 PM
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Mr. Peace: Interesting story. I can imagine that must have been difficult
for you. Having covered an awful lot of court cases as a newspaper reporter
(hence my never being able to serve on a jury), I always felt for those on a
jury having to decide on a case -- and yes, some of the defendants were
descipable thugs who deserved the book thrown at them, so to speak. In other
cases, the evidence was not clear-cut.

At any rate, hope those bastards in the Gloucester case are still rotting in
a cell.





Karen W.

the States

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Quite so. I served as a juror in Gloucester, in the mid Nineties. It was a
really nasty case (gang rape and attempted murder). Constantly reminding
ourselves of the need to apply ourselves only to the evidence, and not even
the demeanour of the accused (they were grinning and laughing as the victim
gave her evidence) could be considered, was one of the most difficult things
I've ever had to do. It was only when we returned a guilty verdict (on the
evidence put before us) that we discovered the splendid fellows in the dock
had a history of sexual violence, and similar crimes.



Yuck.



Darren

Hungerford, UK



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>From what I gather, as soon as Stephen sniffed any doubt he made his mind

up, that's how I read it at least. The whole question is was it reasonable
doubt. And I'm aware of the distinction between civil and criminal weight of
evidence, however as with any case, it always comes down to evidence (or
should) at the end of the day.



I'd move to have you all dismissed from the case if you made up your mind at
the first sign of doubt.



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