[kj] (OT) Singing rule Britannia

[Brendan]

Cue the Monty Python "of course we had it TOUGH" skit...

Oh and I meant rankled, I'm trying to touch type these days and it's going
fast but sloppy. Oo er!


> 1923, 1 USD = 4.2 TRILLION Mark (4.2 rentemark, the rentemark being one

> trillion papiermark). It was cheaper to burn it than to use it to buy

> firewood.

>

> I'm not belittling the tough econonmic conditions in the UK at the moment,

> but comparisons to 1920s germany are exaggerated, esp in terms of standard

> of living.

>

> Just a question of scale I suppose. Germany post WWI was demolished and

> had no goods to sell, they could barely feed themselves, and they were

> saddled with onerous reparations under the Treaty of Versailles. What

> really ranked was being forced to admit that WWI was their fault.

>

>>

>> yeah like america ...massive debt

>>

>>> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:01:50 +1200

>>> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Singing rule Britannia

>>>

>>> I can't see how the circumstances are similar. Germany was fucked after

>>> WWI, they also were forced to take the blame for what was essentially a

>>> european arms race that culminated in a war, and pay large reparations

>>> (although I don't think they ever paid much). The UK is in a much

>>> different position now....isn't it?

>>>

>>> >

>>> > i wouldn't be so sure , the nazi's came to power under similar

>>> > cicumstances and generally the masses can be quite fickle and easily

>>> > swayed

>>> >

>>> >> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:36:33 +1200

>>> >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>>> >> To: gathering at misera.net

>>> >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Singing rule Britannia

>>> >>

>>> >> A proportion of that vote would include those who aren't so much

>>> racist,

>>> >> rather they reject the current immigration policies but haven't

>>> thought

>>> >> through the issues and are ignorant of who they are voting for...I

>>> think

>>> >> as the world population increases, economic woes continue on and

>>> wealth

>>> >> moves from west to east, we'll be seeing more of this kinda stuff.

>>> And

>>> >> the

>>> >> fasists will attempt to capitalise on it. Long term they can always

>>> be

>>> >> relied on to shoot themselves in the foot though.

>>> >>

>>> >> >

>>> >> > that 1 in 17 shows you how many '' closet racists '' there are in

>>> this

>>> >> > country

>>> >> >

>>> >> > a fact most of the country is in self denial over

>>> >> >

>>> >> >

>>> >> >

>>> >> > Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:57:54 +0100

>>> >> > From: MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com

>>> >> > To: gathering at misera.net

>>> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Singing rule Britannia

>>> >> >

>>> >> >

>>> >> >

>>> >> >

>>> >> > it's an interesting premise "defend democracy" when roughly 1

>>> person

>>> >> in 17

>>> >> > voted for BNP in the EU elections as opposed to say Benn's Labour

>>> who

>>> >> > polled roughly 1 in 7. surely the act of protesting against this

>>> >> party's

>>> >> > policies is anti-democratic?

>>> >> > what concerns me more, is why so many people (nearly 1 million)

>>> are

>>> >> that

>>> >> > disaffected that they would vote this outright fascist party in

>>> the

>>> >> first

>>> >> > place.

>>> >> > we're a little lucky the proportional representation system used

>>> in

>>> >> these

>>> >> > elections runs at regional rather than national level, otherwise

>>> >> they'd

>>> >> > have had 4 of the 72 elected as opposed to 2.

>>> >> >

>>> >> >

>>> >> >

>>> >> >

>>> >> >

>>> >> >

>>> >> >

>>> >> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>> >> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>>> >> > On Behalf Of folk devil

>>> >> > Sent: 09 June 2009 18:27

>>> >> > To: gathering at misera.net

>>> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Singing rule Britannia

>>> >> >

>>> >> >

>>> >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8091605.stm

>>> >> >

>>> >> > "Members of Unite Against Fascism, a new group supported by trade

>>> >> unions

>>> >> > and MPs from all parties, including Tory leader David Cameron, and

>>> >> veteran

>>> >> > left wing campaigner Tony Benn, said they wanted to "defend

>>> democracy"

>>> >> > against what they regard as the "fascist" and "racist" policies of

>>> the

>>> >> > BNP.

>>> >> > One told the crowd his message for Mr Griffin was: "Wherever you

>>> go

>>> in

>>> >> > this country we will make sure you are welcomed by

>>> demonstrations."

>>> >> >

>>> >> > Glad it's happening, but this could also promote the BNP.

>>> >> >

>>> >> >

>>> >> >

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