[kj] mark of the beast closer than expected

[Stephen Lawrence]

well life has no guarantees 

you or i could be knocked down by a vehicle crossing the road 

or drunken idiot mounting the pavement 

car crah whilst in friend's car 

electrical accident at home 

fire caused by neighbour 
or left a parplegic by any one of those scenarios 

or as you say struck down by some disease 

all you can do is try your best and enjoy life every second you have and be grateful for another day  


To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:39:50 -0400
From: countessghoulita at aol.com
Subject: Re: [kj] mark of the beast closer than expected


well, I concur too. And I could make a list of people who did not drink, nor smoke, nor had high cholesterol, they did exercise every day and were the health image per se. One of them died of Lou Gehrig's disease, others of cancer. Again, no smoke, no booze, ideal weight, exercising, no high cholesterol/triglycerides... 

How can we stay safe if so called healthy food like vegetables are recalled for salmonella (lets not talk about meat or peanut butter)? There is no control at the source, either.



CG

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Lawrence <stephen.l at live.com>
To: gathering at misera.net <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 15, 2009 3:49 am
Subject: Re: [kj] mark of the beast closer than expected




hi jamie 
looks like we are on the same page 
you echo my sentiments entirely 
the thing that bothers me are the media morons who are already pestering gp's for jabs 
get enough of them and it plays right into the ''for our protection '' excuse that the government likes to use 
i think if you don't smoke ,eat healhily and don't expose yourself unneccessarily to the risk then you'll be fine 
actually obesity is a health risk ,especially on the heart and if they smoked too which suppresses the immune system then the body hasn't got much left to fight the virus with 
stay safe mate  


To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:48:52 -0400
From: jpwhkj at aol.com
Subject: Re: [kj] mark of the beast closer than expected

"most of the victims had illnesses anyway"

True, but what were those illnesses (or "underlying health problems" as the papers tend to say)?  Apparently this included someone who was obese - hardly an imminent risk of death.  (Let's face it, most of us have underlying health problems of some description.)  Source for that:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/14/swine-flu-virus-uk

I'm naturally suspicious of media frenzies (for example, the current death rate in the UK is tiny, suggesting that there's not much to worry about) but then I'm also naturally suspicious of government ministers saying "don't panic"...

Jamie


-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Lawrence <stephen.l at live.com>
To: gathering at misera.net <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:34
Subject: Re: [kj] mark of the=2 0beast closer than expected




folk 
i'm sure you are aware of the avian flu scandal of 76 
quite a few people died as a result of that vaccine 
seems like they wanna have another go 
all these swine flu deaths have been blown out of proportion 
most of the victims had illnesses anyway 
health is big business 
as you said interesting how tamilflu i s out of the equation 
 


From: folk.devil at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:26:53 -0700
Subject: Re: [kj] mark of the beast closer than expected




seems that link is 'limited'...
 
Influenza Antiviral Resistance: Issues for Consideration December 19, 2008 Background 


• CDC recommends annual influenza vaccination as the first and most important step in preventing the flu. 



• Antiviral medications with activity against influenza viruses are a second line of defense against influenza. 



• Antiviral medications are important to consider especially for treatment of patients with severe influenza or patients at higher risk for influenza-related complications. 



• There are four antiviral medications approved for use in the United States: oseltamivir, zanamivir, amantadine and rimantadine. 




o Oseltamivir and zanamivir have activity against influenza A and B viruses. 




o Amantadine and rimantadine have activity against influenza A viruses, but not against influenza B viruses. 



• Influenza viruses can develop resistance to antiviral medications. 



• Since 2006, CDC has recommended the use of oseltamivir and zanamivir against seasonal influenza because of a high resistance to amantadine and rimantadine among influenza A (H3N2) viruses. 



• In the last two years, CDC has enhanced surveillance ef forts for the detection of viruses resistant to oseltamivir (Tamiflu®) and zanamivir (Relenza®). 



• These enhanced efforts have provided CDC with the capability to detect resistant strains more quickly, and enabled CDC to monitor for changing trends over time. 



• During the 2007-08 influenza season, a small increase in the number of influenza viruses resistant to oseltamivir was observed. 



• CDC’s influenza season summary for 2007-2008 reported that 10.9% of tested influenza A (H1N1) viruses were resistant to oseltamivir. 



• Last season, CDC tested 1,769 viruses for antiviral resistance. 



• During the 2007-08 influenza season in the Northern Hemisphere, oseltamivir resistance of H1N1 viruses varied in different countries: from 0% to 70% in some European countries. 



• During the 2008 Southern Hemisphere season, oseltamivir resistance of H1N1 viruses continued to be reported, with some Southern Hemisphere countries reporting that a majority of tested A (H1N1) viruses were resistant to oseltamivir. 

Current Situation 


• At this point in the season, a low level of influenza activity has been reported in the United State s. As a result, very few viruses have been available for testing thus far. 
1 of 3 December 19, 2008 Influenza Antiviral Resistance: Discussion Points (continued from previous page) 



• Early and limited data from this season has detected a significant increase in the proportion of influenza A (H1N1) viruses that are resistant to oseltamivir. 


• In the latest CDC FluView report published on December 19, 2008, 78 influenza viruses from 15 states had been tested for antiviral resistance. 



• This includes 50 influenza A (H1N1) viruses, 8 influenza A (H3N2 viruses) and 20 influenza B viruses. 



• Prel iminary data show: 




o 49 of the 50 influenza A (H1N1) viruses tested were resistant to oseltamivir (98%). 




o These oseltamivir resistant viruses have been detected in 12 states, but the majority of samples have come from two states. 




o All 50 influenza A (H1N1) viruses were sensitive to zanamivir and amantadine and rimantadine. 




o All 8 influenza A (H3N2) viruses remain sensitive to oseltamivir and zanamivir. 




o All 20 influenza B viruses remain sensitive to oseltamivir and zanamivir. 




o All influenza A(H3N2) viruses tested were resistant to amantadine and rimantadine. 



• Weekly reports summarizing U.S. surveillance activity are published every Friday from October through mid-May at http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/fluactivity.htm 



• The fact that oseltamivir-resistance is sig nificantly higher among H1N1 viruses compared to last season in the U.S. is not surprising. Worldwide, the proportion of H1N1 viruses that are resistant to oseltamivir has been increasing. 



• Influenza viruses change constantly through changes in their genetic makeup, and one of such mutations conferred resistance to oseltamivir. 



• There is no evidence that the resistant viruses are causing more severe illness than other influenza viruses or that they are transmitted differently. 



• At this time, it’s not possible to predict how common H1N1 viruses will be during the rest of the 2008–09 season, as every influenza season is different. 


• CDC is monitoring this situation very closely and will continue to test influenza viruses and update information on resistance throughout the influenza season. 

=0 A 

• Recommendations reg arding the use of antiviral medications have been reviewed and updated guidance will be issued given surveillance data indicating an increase in the number of oseltamivir-resistant influenza H1N1 viruses in the United States. 



• Different options for antiviral treatment in the setting of increased circulation of oseltamivir-resistant H1N1 viruses have been considered. These options, such as use of zanamivir or combination therapy with oseltamivir and rimantadine, were outlined in the 2008 influenza recommendations. 
2 of 3 December 19, 2008 Influenza Antiviral Resistance: Discussion Points (continued from previous page) 



• CDC’s interim guidance on the use of influenza antiviral medications in the United States for the 2008-09 season will be issued in a Health Alert Advisory on December 19 . This revised guidance will be available at www.cdc.gov/flu. 



• Clinicians should be aware that revised interim guidance on the use of antiviral medications is being provided by CDC for the current influenza season and will be available at www.cdc.gov/flu. 



• Information from local or state virus surveillance data and laboratory testing can help cli nicians in selecting appropriate antiviral medications for their patients. 



• When influenza A (H1N1) virus infection or exposure is suspected, zanamivir or a combination of oseltamivir and rimantadine are more appropriate options than oseltamivir alone. 


• CDC is working to communicate this new guidance broadly through a clinician communications campaign to alert health care providers to the change in recommendations for=2 0antiviral medications this season. 


• Influenza vaccines are expected to be effective in preventing or reducing the severity of infection with currently circulating influenza viruses, including oseltamivir-resistant influenza A (H1N1) 
3 of 3 December 19, 2008 

 


From: folk.devil at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:17:12 -0700
Subject: Re: [kj] mark of the beast closer than expected



Compulsory vaccination is suggested for the last Phase of an epidemic.
Another strangeity is that H1N1 is resistant to Tamiflu.
http://www.health.state.nm.us/FLU/docs/ Antiviral%20Resistance_Background%20and%20Current%20Situation_partners_12_19.pdf
 


From: dpeace at bigfoot.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:10:26 +0100
Subject: Re: [kj] mark of the beast closer than expected







Have you forgotten your meds again, Stephen?
 
Darren
Hungerford, UK
 
(PS No, I’ve not heard of any fast track programme. Link?)
 


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence
Sent: 14 July 2009 5:52 PM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] mark of the beast closer than expected
 
anyone aware of the SWINE FLU fast track vaccination programme ?
looks like the conspiracy theorists w ere right 
they are talking about jab or jail 
hope my u s trip isn't cut short 
how the fuck can you clinically trial a vaccine in a coupla months ?
 
oh and it was a MOCK ONE btw 
not the shit they wanna pump in our vains 
swine flu my arse 
more like de- population
and surreptitious tagging 
welcome to minority report world 



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