[kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism

Brendan bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Sat Jul 11 00:45:16 EDT 2009


Either it's all okay or none of it is okay.

This is something I've been wondering about for a few years now. No
conclusion as of yet.

Thing that got me thinking was watching through Ricky Gervais's
Extras...it's one of the common themes running through it is the (lack of)
restriction on laughing at certain things. Dwarves, gays, the disabled,
nothing seems to be off limits. But I'm not really sure what the statement
is...? Sure you CAN make fun of anything you want, but a) is it funny, and
b)...should you? Gervais makes fun of himself more than anyone else (e.g.
David Bowie singing his sad little fatman theme song), but does that give
you carte blanche to weigh in on everyone else?

Carlin totally shares your view...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcFryjunIjw

(He did go on, about cartoon characters raping each other etc, and Dave
Chapelle has covered similar ground...and I personally found them both
funny)



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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Leigh Newton
Sent: Saturday, 11 July 2009 10:23 AM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism


Usually when a touchy subject is broached in the name of comedy, it is done
so based on the premise that you aren't supposed to make jokes about said
subject. Most of the time, the people delivering said jokes don't actually
mean what they say.

I can't stand the idea of certain topics being taboo, where humour is
concerned. Fuck that. Either it's all okay or none of it is okay.

Leigh


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From: "countessghoulita at aol.com" <countessghoulita at aol.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 6:52:17 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism


Stephen, I concur. Yet, making fun of people with disabilities,
nationalities, etc. etc is wrong. I totally concur, and I should have
listened to my nature and not watch the movie. Serves me really well.



-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Lawrence <stephen.l at live.com>
To: gathering at misera.net <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Fri, Jul 10, 2009 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism


countess you do know that most humour is at the expense of someone ?
that's the workings of man
to laugh at the differences or weaknesses of others
if you had seen borat you would have known what to expect
ali g was a bit off in places


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To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:17:42 -0400
From: countessghoulita at aol.com
Subject: [kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism

I wish I read this article before going to the theatre. Not that I was
expecting this movie to be funny in an intelligent way.

http://news.bostonherald.com/entertainment/movies/reviews/view/20090710bruno
/srvc=home
<http://news.bostonherald.com/entertainment/movies/reviews/view/20090710brun
o/srvc=home&position=7> &position=7

In the very first minutes of the movie, Bruno (Sacha Baron Cohen), an
obnoxious fashionista, makes fun of autism in his talk show called
"Funkyzeit". This turned me immediately off, and needed to leave the
theatre immediately. If I read that article I would have never gone. I am so
ready to debate about this with everyone. Soo ready. Sacha Baron Cohen is on
my chopping block. I am pissed off.

I thought you guys should know.

Cheers,

CG






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