[kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead - ENOUGH!!!!
countessghoulita at aol.com
countessghoulita at aol.com
Thu Jul 2 19:57:11 EDT 2009
Thank you, Karen xoxo
-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:49 pm
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead - ENOUGH!!!!
He does -- just don't call him the King of Pop!
; )
Glad to see the lovely Countess posting here, btw.
Cheers,
KW
----- Original Message -----
From:
countessghoulita at aol.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:12
PM
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson
dead - ENOUGH!!!!
Alex, you rule!
CG
-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: Alex
Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>; A list
about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wed,
Jul 1, 2009 10:17 am
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead -
ENOUGH!!!!
Thanks,
Alex. Best thing I've read all
day.
k.w.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To:
"A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>; "A list about
all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <ga
thering at misera.net>
Sent:
Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael
Jackson dead - ENOUGH!!!!
>
>
Boys,....
>
> Can we just let this die already? Also
-- and this is just my request -- > can we drop the whole Michael Jackson
discussion? Aren't you all getting > enough of that bullshit elsewhere?
Aren't we already inundated with more > revisionist shite about
that20slavishly overrated bag of filth?
>
> Personally
speaking, I was NEVER a fan of MJ -- be he a child molester or > not (he
was, by the way, just admit it!) Growing up, the music that spoke > to me
served as the ANTIDOTE to the slick, soulless, meaningless sonic > offal
that was Michael Jackson's product.
>
> Michael
Jackson is the veritable antithesis of Killing Joke, in my mind. > Let's
not lower our standards by discussing him further.
>
>
Just my two cents.
> Alex in
NYC
>
>
>
>
>
>
-----Original Message-----
>>From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
>>Sent:
Jul 1, 2009 9:32 AM
>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke
(the band!)" >><gathering at misera.net>
>>Subject:
Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson
dead
>>
>>>
>>> do i have
to spell it out to you ?
>>>
>>> YOU WERE
CALLING ME CHRIS
>>
>>I was only trying to get
you closer to Christ, sheesh, chill
out.
>>
>>> other gatherers pointed this
out
>>>
>>> you ignored
it
>>
>>Don't call other gatherers it, they have
names. >>
>>> i am not going to explain
myself as i am a bullshitter in your
eyes
>>
>>My point was that everyone is a
bullshitter in a sense, actually, and I
>>don't believe people
who say they aren't. Don't read too much into someone
>>saying
"bullshit" to you on the internets either, in a discussion
about
>>bullshit (?!). I can't put a smiley on every single
thing I say...
>>
>>> and frankly i can't be
bothered
>>
>>So stop replying
then...
>>
>>> i have better things to
do
>>
>>Fair enough, start doing them, with
gusto, verve and vim.
>>
>>> i notice you
like to give shit but can't take it
>>
>>You're
not supposed to be dishing out shit, your'e supposed to be
turning
>>the other cheek and forgiving...what version of the
bible are you running
>>off? Not the one I grew up with (and
defaced ;)
>>
>>> ever heard the glass houses
proverb ?
>>
>>Yeah, ever heard the one about
the...oh, I can't tell that one. Or
most
>>others I
know...they've all got priests or nuns in
them.
>>
>>> i don't recall many gatherers [
if any ] defending your attack on me
>>
&g
t;>I'm not looking for anyone to defend my opinion. For what it's
worth
>>though Darren saw my point. But we really shouldn't
involve the kids in
>>our
arguments.
>>
>>>
>>> but
then again you are pretty blinkered
>>
>>You
have the universe all wrapped up already, I openly state that I
don't
>>know fuck all. Next stupid comment
please.
>>
>>> don't wanna burst your bubble
but soundgarden are NOT the only good band
>>on the
planet
>>
>>Now that's just funny, esp after I
accidentally called you Chris :)
>>
>>Look,
sorry for getting your name wrong, I blitz through emails and ones
I
>>don't understand at a glance (there's a lot on this list,
due to in jokes
>>and regional references and bands I don't
know etc) I delete quickly, I
>>vaguely remember someone
pointing out something about it but didn't click.
>>Or I did
click but on the delete button. Big
deal.
>>
>>
>>>> Date: Wed,
1 Jul 2009 23:47:29 +1200
>>>> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
>>>>
To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>
Subject: Re: [kj]
FW: Michael Jackson
dead
>>>>
>>&g t;> err STILL not
reading what you have
written
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. But you
still comment on it, how
fair.
>>>>
>>>> other gatherers
pointed it out to you
>>>>
>>>>
Other gatherers ventured their opinion on both sides,
actually.
>>>>
>>>> > but i also
noticed how you ignored other gatherers points made
>>>>
regarding
>>>> > jury
service
>>>>
>>>> What points did I
ignore, I thought I answered in full. But how would
>>>>
you
>>>> know when you're not reading my
posts?
>>>>
>>>> > i can't be
bothered to go into the details of the minor offence
case
>>>> >
>>>> > i was not
the only one voting
against
>>>>
>>>> You still haven't
said what kind of case it was and whether you
decided
>>>> based on evidence or as soon as you had
doubt, which is what you
>>>> originally said, and
haven't corrected, so I assume is the case. That
>>>>
was
>>>> my whole point. You can't sniff doubt on one
side or the other and make
>>>>
up
>>>> your mind then and there without hearing the rest
of the evidence.&n bsp;
>>>>
>>>> >
a juror reminds me of you when stating '' i wanna vote guilty20as
i
>>>> haven't
>>>> > been on a
case where that was unanimous yet
''
>>>>
>>>> Don't understand you or
the comment, and putting words in someone >>>>
else's
>>>> mouth isn't a legitimite way to argue a
point.
>>>>
>>>> > never mind the
fact you are dealing with a person's
life
>>>>
>>>> When are you
not?
>>>>
>>>> > police never lie
do they ?
>>>>
>>>> You obviously
haven't read my posts about the
police.
>>>>
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
>>>>
> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>
> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:55:02 +1000
>>>> >
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> > Check who
you are dissing or get some new glasses...I'm gonna
use
>>>> that.
>>>>
>
>>>>=2 0> Yes STFU means what you think it does.
And I'm not apologising to >>>> >
Pete
>>>> > West, esp not after complimenting his SOH
and comparing his english
>>>> > favourably to
yours...I know that's damning with faint praise or
>>>>
whatever,
>>>> > but hey..
>>>>
>
>>>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NOZU2iPA8
>>>>
>
>>>>20>
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>>
[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
>>>>
> On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence
>>>> > Sent:
Wednesday, 1 July 2009 9:27 AM
>>>> > To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>
> Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead
>>>>
>
>>>> >
>>>> > all i'm
gonna say is check who you are dissing
>>>> > or get
some new glasses
>>>> > testing the statement you
made
>>>> > SHUT THE FUCK UP
!!!!!!!
>>>> > sorry ??? like fuck you
are
>>>> > i suggest you read wha t you last wrote and
apologise to the person
>>>> >
mentioned
>>>> >
>>>> >>
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:24:45 +1200
>>>> >> From:
bq at soundgardener.co.nz
>>>>
>> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead
>>>>
>>
>>>> >> Christ you waffle a load of shit
Chris.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
Your first lines belie your 'nice' nature. I can take it on the
chin
>>>> >> when
>>>>
>> someone tells me to STFU or whatever, but pretending that
you're
>>>> holier
>>>> >>
than thou, when you demonstrate in your email what a hypocrite
you
>>>> >> are...sorry.
>>>>
>>
>>>> >> "never on this forum=2
0have i TOLD
anyone how to live"
>>>>
>>
>>>> >> Actually you did and got shouted
down and told to put a sock in it
>>>>
with
>>>> >> the religious crap. Sigh...go on and
deny it now of course.
>>>>
>>
>>>> >> "i do NOT consider myself hoilier
than thou"
>>>> >>
>>& gt;>
>> Yes, you do.
>>>>
>>
>>>> >> "i await the usual one word
response"
>>>> >>
>>>>
>> Two emails out of hundreds doesn't constitute usual. touch
of
>>>> sarcasm?
>>>> >>
That's not positive now is it?
>>>>
>>
>>>> >> "when obviously the initial
hostility was due to the belief i was
>>>>
pete
>>>> >> west"
>>>>
>>
>>>> >> Obviously how? What are you on
about now? The only confusion between
>>>>
you
>>>> >> and Pete West is in the hopeless
english, you're actually worse than
>>>>
he
>>>> >> is
>>>> >> as
a matter of fact. Well done. Pete West is quite witty when he >>>>
>> gets
>>>> >> going too, I don't bite when
he pops up anymore.
>>>>
>>
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> > awww poor brendan
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> > hurt your feelings did i
?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
> get over it
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> > you come across as an opinionated
bully ;
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> > unless it fits in with your world view
>>>>
>> >
>>>> >> > it must me torn down and
stomped on
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> > never on this forum have i TOLD anyone how to
live
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> > i HAVE defended what the bible teaches ,after seeing such
rubbish
>>>> >> written
>>>>
>> > about it [ or parts taken out of context
]
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
> i do NOT consider myself hoilier than thou as i KNOW that unless
i
>>>> >> > dramatically change my lifestyle i
will NOT see the kingdom >>>> >> >
onearth
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> > i like life as it is even with all the pain suffering and
death
>>>> around
>>>> >>
me
>>>> >> > and try to alleviate it in some
small way
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> > NO i am not seeking your approval
>>>>
>> >
>>>> >> > it would be interesting
to see if you walk it like you talk it
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> > unlike o thers on the internet i
do not adopt some sort of persona
>>>>
in
>>>> >> order
>>>> >>
> to feel '' big behind the keyboard ''
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> > some gat
herers have met
me
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
> i leave them to give a hopefully honest appraiseal of
me
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
> if they don't i shan't castigate them for it
>>>>
>> >
>>>> >> > unlike others i admit to
my faults
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> > i know i expect too much of others [ even of myself sometimes
]
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
> i DO endeavour to make my word my bond
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> > i enjoy violent video games but
would never perpetrate it in real
>>>>
life
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> > i enjoy many types of music but do not force it down others
>>>> >> > throats
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> > i do not see artists as someone
to worship and do NOT prescribe to
>>>>
the
>>>> >> > cult of
personality
>>& gt;> >>
>
>>>> >> > they are people just like me with
good and bad points
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> > i stand by my statement regarding
the scenarios i have NOT been in
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> > i have obviously lead a different
life to you
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> > possibly charmed n some instances but it has had it's share
of
>>>> >> heartbreaks
>>>>
>> >
>>>> >> > i do NOT seek sympathy
from anyone
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> > i WILL seek guidance from friends and am not too proud to ask
if
>>>> i'm
>>>> >>
not
>>>> >> > sure
>>>>
>> >
>>>> >> > i await the usual one
word response
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> > oh and intially i defended my
view of killing joke
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> > i have learnt to respond only
when needed or to acknowledge a
>>>>
kindness
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> > i do not bear grudges and am surprised that you would drag up
the
>>>> past
>>&g t;> >>
> when obviously the initial hostility was due to the belief i
was
>>>> pete
>>>> >>
west
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> > oh well whatever floats your boat
>>>>
>> >
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
>>>>
>> > To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>
>> > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:41:31 +1000
>>>>
>> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson
dead
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> >
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> > You're a great example of either what religion does to
people's
>>>> minds
>>>> >>
or
>>>> >> > who is attracted to religion. Black
and white thinking...negative
>>>> >>
thoughts
>>>> >> > are BAD, ergo I don't have
any. Oh but you do...
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> > In one of your first posts on
this list you made a disparaging
>>>>
remark
>>>> >> > about me, so all of your
blather below is just t hat. What you >>>> >> >
think
>>>> >> you
>>>>
>> > should be. Because a bunch of representatives of your
collective
>>>> >>
imaginary
>>>> >> > friend, who I might point
out have a disproportionately high
>>>>
incidence
>>>> >> of
>>>>
>> > molesting children, tell you is right, enforced with
supernatural
>>>> >>
promises
>>>> >> > and threats. Choose me or
choose eternal flame...hrm, nice set of
>>>> >>
options.
>>>> >> > Sounds like a plausible offer
from a sane omnipotent entity.
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> > And if you're like the typical
religious idiot there's about a >>>> >> >
100%
>>>> >> chance
>>>>
>> > that any evidence to the contrary will be refused entry into
your
>>>> >> nervous
>>>>
>> > system or twisted in such a way that it somehow fits the
existing
>>>> >> model..
>>>>
>> > No chance of challenging those convictions, that faith.
That'd
>>>> imply
>>>> >>
some 0A
>>>> >> > form of honesty and fallibility.
God doesn't work that way!
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> >
>>>> >> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>>
>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
>>>>
>> > On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence
>>>> >>
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2009 4:47 AM
>>>> >>
> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>
>> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson
dead
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> >
>>>> >> > i don't know why i'm
bothering
>>>> >> > but half the things you
speak of do NOT apply to me
>>>> >> > i do not
recall being in any of the scenarios you speak of
>>>>
>> > regarding a boss i disliked i just told him what i thought
and
>>>> walked
>>>> >> > i
will NOT take shit
>>>> >> > if i like something
i say so and vice versa and i do not seek
>>>>
approval
>>>> >> > from
anyone
>>>> >> > i have never delivered a
speech
>>>> >> > i have never tried ''to fit in
''
> >>> >> > i wear something because it is
pleasing to me ,NOT because it is
>>>> >> >
fashionable
>>>> >> > i occaisionally pay homage
to a particular vernacular because it
>>>> >>
raises a
>>>> >> > laugh [ usually at my expense
] but i
don't lose sleep over it
>>>> >> > i'll
admit picking my nose in my own time and in my own
personal
>>>> space
>>>> >>
> i have never laughed AT someone but prefer to laugh with someone
[
>>>> >> except
>>>> >>
> in the instance of comedy ]
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> >
>>>> >> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
>>>>
>> > To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>
>> > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:57:16 +1000
>>>>
>> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson
dead
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> >
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> > Never had a boss you weren't honest about disliking (lie
by
>>>> omission)?
>>>> >>
A
>> ;>> >> > friend / partner / family member
make a stupid decision or comment
>>>> >>
that
>>>> >> > you smiled and bit your tongue
to? A stupid joke you laughed along
>>>> >>
with
>>>> >> > for reasons of social cohesion /
subservience? Put on a brave face
>>>> >>
when
>>>> >> > you wanted to cry or scream? Did
your best not to look unhappy >>>> >> >
when
>>>> >> being
>>>>
>> > teased or laughed at? Smiled and posed for a photo? Looked like
a
>>>> >> tougher
>>>>
>> > version of yourself when
walking past thugs? Pretended not to
give
>>>> a
>>>> >>
shit
>>>> >> > when someone said something that
hurt? Pretended to be interested
>>>>
when
>>>> >> > someone you like or thought
worthy of respect was boring you?
>>>>
Heaped
>>>> >> > praise on mediocre performance
for what you thought were the right
>>>> >> >
reasons?
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> > Do you present the same way when delivering a speech as you do
>>>> >> > when
>>>> >> you're
>>>> >> > getting pissed with your mates? Do
you wear clothes you don't like
>>>>
for
>>>> >> > business or other reasons, to fit
in? Never looked back in
>>>>
retrospect
>>>> >> and
>>>>
>> > thought you were an idiot for trying to come across in a
>>>> >> > particular
>>>> >>
way to
>>>> >> > impress someone else? Presented
someone with your representative >>>> >> >
on
>>>> a
>>>> >> > date,
as opposed to the real you? Waited until no one was
around
>>>> >> before
>>>>
>> > picking your nose?
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> > Ever found yourslf picking up
someone else's vernacular because
>>>>
they
>>>> >> have
>>>>
>> > a strong personality? Bought clothes or music or g
adgets to
'fit
>>>> in'?
>>>> >>
Or
>>>> >> > to not fit
in...
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> > Ever talked shit for an hour straight at a job interview or on
a
>>>> date?
>>>> >> >
Stifled laughter in order to not hurt someone
else's20feelings...?
>>>> >>
Tried
>>>> >> > not to look physically disgusted
at something / someone who
>>>>
disgusts
>>>> >> you?
>>>>
>> >
>>>> >> > Hrm...by my
calculations, if the above is true then you're FULL
OF
>>>> >> SHIT.
>>>> >>
> Just like the rest of us (only slightly moreso
;)
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> >
>>>> >> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>>
>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
>>>>
>> > On Behalf Of jerry bodkin
>>>> >>
> Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 11:27 PM
>>>> >>
> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>
>> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson
dead
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> >
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> > actually I
DON'T
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> >
>>>> >> > Same as, it leaves one a
touch outspoken at times, but hey, f*£k
>>>& gt;
it!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
> Jelly...... melting
>>>> >>
>=C
2
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> > From: stephen.l at live.com
>>>>
>> > To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>
>> > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:49:21 +0000
>>>>
>> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson
dead
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> >
>>>> >>
>
>>>> >> > actually I
DON'T
>>>> >> >
>>>>
>> >> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:13:39
+1200
>>>> >> >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
>>>>
>> >> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>
>> >> Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson
dead
>>>> >> >>
>>>>
>> >> Cos we all pretend we're something we're
not.
>>>> >> >>
>>>>
>> >> >
>>>> >> >> > ...cos
no one wants to say so to your face?
>>>> >>
>> >
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > Keep
Smiling...
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > http://www.myspace.com/themodelaircraftmuseum
>>>>
>> >> >
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > http://www.myspace.com/paulwadyexperience
>>>>
>> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Autism
also affects adults.
>>>> >> >> > Most are
isolated and ignored
>>>> >> >> > Think.
Act. Transform Lives.
>>>> >> >> > www.think-differently.org.uk
>>>>
>> >> >
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >
>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
>>>>
>> >> > To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>
>> >> > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:11:03
+1000
>>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW:
Michael Jackson dead
& gt;>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > It's damn near illegal
and harshly looked down upon to talk bad
>>>> >>
about
>>>> >> >> a
>>>>
>> >> > dead person
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > Rraises some interesting
questions for those who have an
>>>> >>
alternative
>>>> >> >>
set
>>>> >> >> > of ethics as espoused by
bands such as Killing Joke etc. From
>>>>
what
>>>> >> >>
I've
>>>> >> >> > seen that tradition is
given lip service but is full of holes >>>> >> >> >
to
>>>> >> the
>>>> >>
>> > extent that people will find a way to talk about whatever
they
>>>> >> want.
>>>>
>> >> > Personally I've never really bought into it anyway so I
don't
>>>> feel
>>>> >>
any
>>>> >> >> > compunctions either
way.
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > It doesn't generall y
apply to enemies
>>>> >> >> > Doe
sn't
apply to anyone who fits into any group it's
currently
>>>> >> >>
fashionable
>>>> >> >> > to
dislike
>>>> >> >> > It's okay to say
exactly what you want if you preface your
>>>>
comments
>>>> >> >>
with
>>>> >> >> > the assertion that
you're only passing on what someone else >>>> >> >>
> said
>>>> >> >> > It's behind closed
doors and "just between us"
>>>> >> >> >
All bets are off when you've had a few drinks.
>>>>
>> >> > Lads / mates can talk about
anything...
>>>> >> >> > Partners can talk
about whatever they want
>>>> >> >> > It
sells copy, I don't make the news I just print it...I'm
just
>>>> >> doing
>>>>
>> >> my
>>>> >> >> > job. I'm
just filling a demand, don't blame me I don't buy
the
>>>> >> >> tabloids
I
>>>> >> >> > just make
them...
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3
DUUXBCdt5IPg
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > WHY CAN'T WE JUST ADMIT
IT.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>>
>> >> >
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>>
>> >> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
>>>>
>> >> > On Behalf Of sade1
>>>> >>
>> > Sent: Monday, 29
June 2009 10:11 AM
>>>>
>> >> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the
band!)
>>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW:
Michael Jackson dead
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> >> ...none of
the...ass-kissing pieces of tripe that I've read
>>>>
>> actually
>>>> >> >> >> mention
his court cases and... settlements...
>>>> >>
>> >
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > It's damn near illegal
and harshly looked down upon to talk bad
>>>> &
gt;> about
>>>> >> >>
a
>>>> >> >> > dead person, even if they
deliberately were a major asshole in
>>>>
real
>>>> >> >> > life.** Even worse when
it seems it was all a tragic accidental
>>>> >>
death
>>>> >> >>
(so
>>>> >> >> > they're
saying).
>>>> >> >> > Worse now that his
doctor has lawyered up i don't think they'll
>>>>
>> have a
>>>> >> >> > straight
answer on anything until legal and insurance cases >>>> >>
>> > have
>>>> >>
been
>>>> >> >> >
settled.
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > **besides, even now,
television ratings are everything.
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > I would
like to see any
one of his lawyers write a tell-all
>>>>
about
>>>> >> any
>>>>
>> >> or
>>>> >> >> > all of
MJ's cases and settlements. Would reveal lots.
>>>>
>> >> >
>>>> >> >> > ...
... ... ... ... ...
>>>> >> >>
>
>>& gt;> >> >> > [looking at the
current state of things..]
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > 'Save
me...
>>>> >> >> > save me from
Tomorrow..
>>>> >> >> > I don't want to
sail in this Ship Of Fools...'
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>>
>> >> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the
band!)
>>>> >> >> > <gathering at misera.net>
>>>>
>> >> > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 10:05:26
AM
>>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW:
Michael Jackson dead
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > Aside from the
implication that paedophiles are ok ay if they've
>>>>
>> also
>>>> >> >> > written some
nice songs, my main grievance about
this whole
>>>>
bloody
>>>> >> >>
circus
>>>> >> >> > is the media
conspiracy to hush-up his charming recreational
>>>>
>> >> activities. I
>>>> >> >>
> could be wrong, but none of the eulogies, bios and
ass-kissing
>>>> >>
pieces
>>>> >> >>
of
>>>> >> >> > tripe that I've read
actually mention his court cases and
>>>> >>
>> multi-million
>>>> >> >> > dollar
out-of-court settlements. The closest any of them
have
>>>> come
>>>> >>
was
>>>> >> >> a
>>>>
>> >> > sheepish remark that "[his] later life was dogged by
legal
>>>> >> problems"..
>>>>
>> >> > Since when did being arrested count as a 'legal
problem'? That
>>>> >>
makes
>>>> >> >> it
>>>>
>> >> > sound like some boundary dispute with a neigbour, or at
worst a
>>>> >> little
>>>>
>> >> > income-tax evasion..
>>>&g t;
>> >> >
>>>> >> >> > It's
disgraceful. If Gary Glitter had actually written
some
>>>> >> >>
half-decent
>>>> >> >> > songs, does that
mean he was really a nice guy? When he dies do
>>>>
we
>>>> >> all
>>>> >>
>> > have to agree not to mention his child molestation in case
it
>>>> >> offends
>>>>
>> >> > someone?
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> >
Jim.
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > --- On Sun, 28/6/09,
Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > It's all fucking
meaningless. People have been force-fed this
>>>>
inane
>>>> >> >> > bologna for years that
MJ was some sort of "genius' (the most
>>>> >>
abused
>>>> >> >>
word
>>>> >> >> > in the English
language). Pile of fucking crap.
>>>> >> ; >>
> I'm sick of it.
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > Alex in
NYC
>>>> >> >> >
>>>>
>> >> >
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > -----Original
Message-----
>>>> >> >> > From: jerry
bodkin
>>>> >> >> > Sent: Jun 28, 2009
11:24 AM
>>>> >> >> > To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>
>> >> > Subject: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson
dead
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk
>>>>
>> >> > To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk
>>>>
>> >> > Subject: RE:20[kj] Michael Jackson
dead
>>>> >> >> > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009
16:24:17 +0100
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> ; >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > If his fans liked his
music, why didnt they have the c.d's,
>>>> >>
downloads
>>>> >> >>
etc
>>>> >> >> > already? Why the sudden
rush to purchase and d/load. Somethings
>>>> >>
smells
>>>> >> >> > and dont just mean his
corpse!
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> >
Jelly.
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > From: dpeace at bigfoot.com
>>>>
>> >> > To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>
>> >> > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:07:37
+0100
>>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [kj]
Michael Jackson dead
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > Oh
Christ.
>>>> >> >>
>
>>>> >> >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8123085.stm
>>>>
>> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
Darren
>>>> >> >> > Hungerford,
UK
>>>> >> >> >
>>>>
>> >> >
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