[kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead - ENOUGH!!!!
Karen Weil
karen.weil at sddt.com
Wed Jul 1 17:49:12 EDT 2009
He does -- just don't call him the King of Pop! ; )
Glad to see the lovely Countess posting here, btw.
Cheers,
KW
----- Original Message -----
From: countessghoulita at aol.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead - ENOUGH!!!!
Alex, you rule!
CG
-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
To: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:17 am
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead - ENOUGH!!!!
Thanks, Alex. Best thing I've read all day.
k.w.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>; "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead - ENOUGH!!!!
>
> Boys,....
>
> Can we just let this die already? Also -- and this is just my request -- > can we drop the whole Michael Jackson discussion? Aren't you all getting > enough of that bullshit elsewhere? Aren't we already inundated with more > revisionist shite about that20slavishly overrated bag of filth?
>
> Personally speaking, I was NEVER a fan of MJ -- be he a child molester or > not (he was, by the way, just admit it!) Growing up, the music that spoke > to me served as the ANTIDOTE to the slick, soulless, meaningless sonic > offal that was Michael Jackson's product.
>
> Michael Jackson is the veritable antithesis of Killing Joke, in my mind. > Let's not lower our standards by discussing him further.
>
> Just my two cents.
> Alex in NYC
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
>>Sent: Jul 1, 2009 9:32 AM
>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" >><gathering at misera.net>
>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead
>>
>>>
>>> do i have to spell it out to you ?
>>>
>>> YOU WERE CALLING ME CHRIS
>>
>>I was only trying to get you closer to Christ, sheesh, chill out.
>>
>>> other gatherers pointed this out
>>>
>>> you ignored it
>>
>>Don't call other gatherers it, they have names. >>
>>> i am not going to explain myself as i am a bullshitter in your eyes
>>
>>My point was that everyone is a bullshitter in a sense, actually, and I
>>don't believe people who say they aren't. Don't read too much into someone
>>saying "bullshit" to you on the internets either, in a discussion about
>>bullshit (?!). I can't put a smiley on every single thing I say...
>>
>>> and frankly i can't be bothered
>>
>>So stop replying then...
>>
>>> i have better things to do
>>
>>Fair enough, start doing them, with gusto, verve and vim.
>>
>>> i notice you like to give shit but can't take it
>>
>>You're not supposed to be dishing out shit, your'e supposed to be turning
>>the other cheek and forgiving...what version of the bible are you running
>>off? Not the one I grew up with (and defaced ;)
>>
>>> ever heard the glass houses proverb ?
>>
>>Yeah, ever heard the one about the...oh, I can't tell that one. Or most
>>others I know...they've all got priests or nuns in them.
>>
>>> i don't recall many gatherers [ if any ] defending your attack on me
>>
&g t;>I'm not looking for anyone to defend my opinion. For what it's worth
>>though Darren saw my point. But we really shouldn't involve the kids in
>>our arguments.
>>
>>>
>>> but then again you are pretty blinkered
>>
>>You have the universe all wrapped up already, I openly state that I don't
>>know fuck all. Next stupid comment please.
>>
>>> don't wanna burst your bubble but soundgarden are NOT the only good band
>>on the planet
>>
>>Now that's just funny, esp after I accidentally called you Chris :)
>>
>>Look, sorry for getting your name wrong, I blitz through emails and ones I
>>don't understand at a glance (there's a lot on this list, due to in jokes
>>and regional references and bands I don't know etc) I delete quickly, I
>>vaguely remember someone pointing out something about it but didn't click.
>>Or I did click but on the delete button. Big deal.
>>
>>
>>>> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:47:29 +1200
>>>> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
>>>> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead
>>>>
>>&g t;> err STILL not reading what you have written
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. But you still comment on it, how fair.
>>>>
>>>> other gatherers pointed it out to you
>>>>
>>>> Other gatherers ventured their opinion on both sides, actually.
>>>>
>>>> > but i also noticed how you ignored other gatherers points made
>>>> regarding
>>>> > jury service
>>>>
>>>> What points did I ignore, I thought I answered in full. But how would
>>>> you
>>>> know when you're not reading my posts?
>>>>
>>>> > i can't be bothered to go into the details of the minor offence case
>>>> >
>>>> > i was not the only one voting against
>>>>
>>>> You still haven't said what kind of case it was and whether you decided
>>>> based on evidence or as soon as you had doubt, which is what you
>>>> originally said, and haven't corrected, so I assume is the case. That
>>>> was
>>>> my whole point. You can't sniff doubt on one side or the other and make
>>>> up
>>>> your mind then and there without hearing the rest of the evidence.&n bsp;
>>>>
>>>> > a juror reminds me of you when stating '' i wanna vote guilty as i
>>>> haven't
>>>> > been on a case where that was unanimous yet ''
>>>>
>>>> Don't understand you or the comment, and putting words in someone >>>> else's
>>>> mouth isn't a legitimite way to argue a point.
>>>>
>>>> > never mind the fact you are dealing with a person's life
>>>>
>>>> When are you not?
>>>>
>>>> > police never lie do they ?
>>>>
>>>> You obviously haven't read my posts about the police.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
>>>> > To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:55:02 +1000
>>>> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Check who you are dissing or get some new glasses...I'm gonna use
>>>> that.
>>>> >
>>>>=2 0> Yes STFU means what you think it does. And I'm not apologising to >>>> > Pete
>>>> > West, esp not after complimenting his SOH and comparing his english
>>>> > favourably to yours...I know that's damning with faint praise or
>>>> whatever,
>>>> > but hey..
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NOZU2iPA8
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
>>>> > On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 9:27 AM
>>>> > To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > all i'm gonna say is check who you are dissing
>>>> > or get some new glasses
>>>> > testing the statement you made
>>>> > SHUT THE FUCK UP !!!!!!!
>>>> > sorry ??? like fuck you are
>>>> > i suggest you read wha t you last wrote and apologise to the person
>>>> > mentioned
>>>> >
>>>> >> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:24:45 +1200
>>>> >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
>>>> >> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Christ you waffle a load of shit Chris.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Your first lines belie your 'nice' nature. I can take it on the chin
>>>> >> when
>>>> >> someone tells me to STFU or whatever, but pretending that you're
>>>> holier
>>>> >> than thou, when you demonstrate in your email what a hypocrite you
>>>> >> are...sorry.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "never on this forum have i TOLD anyone how to live"
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Actually you did and got shouted down and told to put a sock in it
>>>> with
>>>> >> the religious crap. Sigh...go on and deny it now of course.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "i do NOT consider myself hoilier than thou"
>>>> >>
>>& gt;> >> Yes, you do.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "i await the usual one word response"
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Two emails out of hundreds doesn't constitute usual. touch of
>>>> sarcasm?
>>>> >> That's not positive now is it?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "when obviously the initial hostility was due to the belief i was
>>>> pete
>>>> >> west"
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Obviously how? What are you on about now? The only confusion between
>>>> you
>>>> >> and Pete West is in the hopeless english, you're actually worse than
>>>> he
>>>> >> is
>>>> >> as a matter of fact. Well done. Pete West is quite witty when he >>>> >> gets
>>>> >> going too, I don't bite when he pops up anymore.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > awww poor brendan
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > hurt your feelings did i ?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > get over it
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > you come across as an opinionated bully ;
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > unless it fits in with your world view
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > it must me torn down and stomped on
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > never on this forum have i TOLD anyone how to live
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > i HAVE defended what the bible teaches ,after seeing such rubbish
>>>> >> written
>>>> >> > about it [ or parts taken out of context ]
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > i do NOT consider myself hoilier than thou as i KNOW that unless i
>>>> >> > dramatically change my lifestyle i will NOT see the kingdom >>>> >> > onearth
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > i like life as it is even with all the pain suffering and death
>>>> around
>>>> >> me
>>>> >> > and try to alleviate it in some small way
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > NO i am not seeking your approval
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > it would be interesting to see if you walk it like you talk it
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > unlike o thers on the internet i do not adopt some sort of persona
>>>> in
>>>> >> order
>>>> >> > to feel '' big behind the keyboard ''
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > some gatherers have met me
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > i leave them to give a hopefully honest appraiseal of me
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > if they don't i shan't castigate them for it
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > unlike others i admit to my faults
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > i know i expect too much of others [ even of myself sometimes ]
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > i DO endeavour to make my word my bond
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > i enjoy violent video games but would never perpetrate it in real
>>>> life
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > i enjoy many types of music but do not force it down others >>>> >> > throats
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > i do not see artists as someone to worship and do NOT prescribe to
>>>> the
>>>> >> > cult of personality
>>& gt;> >> >
>>>> >> > they are people just like me with good and bad points
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > i stand by my statement regarding the scenarios i have NOT been in
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > i have obviously lead a different life to you
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > possibly charmed n some instances but it has had it's share of
>>>> >> heartbreaks
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > i do NOT seek sympathy from anyone
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > i WILL seek guidance from friends and am not too proud to ask if
>>>> i'm
>>>> >> not
>>>> >> > sure
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > i await the usual one word response
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > oh and intially i defended my view of killing joke
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > i have learnt to respond only when needed or to acknowledge a
>>>> kindness
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > i do not bear grudges and am surprised that you would drag up the
>>>> past
>>&g t;> >> > when obviously the initial hostility was due to the belief i was
>>>> pete
>>>> >> west
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > oh well whatever floats your boat
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
>>>> >> > To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> >> > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:41:31 +1000
>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > You're a great example of either what religion does to people's
>>>> minds
>>>> >> or
>>>> >> > who is attracted to religion. Black and white thinking...negative
>>>> >> thoughts
>>>> >> > are BAD, ergo I don't have any. Oh but you do...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > In one of your first posts on this list you made a disparaging
>>>> remark
>>>> >> > about me, so all of your blather below is just t hat. What you >>>> >> > think
>>>> >> you
>>>> >> > should be. Because a bunch of representatives of your collective
>>>> >> imaginary
>>>> >> > friend, who I might point out have a disproportionately high
>>>> incidence
>>>> >> of
>>>> >> > molesting children, tell you is right, enforced with supernatural
>>>> >> promises
>>>> >> > and threats. Choose me or choose eternal flame...hrm, nice set of
>>>> >> options.
>>>> >> > Sounds like a plausible offer from a sane omnipotent entity.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > And if you're like the typical religious idiot there's about a >>>> >> > 100%
>>>> >> chance
>>>> >> > that any evidence to the contrary will be refused entry into your
>>>> >> nervous
>>>> >> > system or twisted in such a way that it somehow fits the existing
>>>> >> model..
>>>> >> > No chance of challenging those convictions, that faith. That'd
>>>> imply
>>>> >> some
>>>> >> > form of honesty and fallibility. God doesn't work that way!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>> >> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
>>>> >> > On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence
>>>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2009 4:47 AM
>>>> >> > To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > i don't know why i'm bothering
>>>> >> > but half the things you speak of do NOT apply to me
>>>> >> > i do not recall being in any of the scenarios you speak of
>>>> >> > regarding a boss i disliked i just told him what i thought and
>>>> walked
>>>> >> > i will NOT take shit
>>>> >> > if i like something i say so and vice versa and i do not seek
>>>> approval
>>>> >> > from anyone
>>>> >> > i have never delivered a speech
>>>> >> > i have never tried ''to fit in ''
> >>> >> > i wear something because it is pleasing to me ,NOT because it is
>>>> >> > fashionable
>>>> >> > i occaisionally pay homage to a particular vernacular because it
>>>> >> raises a
>>>> >> > laugh [ usually at my expense ] but i don't lose sleep over it
>>>> >> > i'll admit picking my nose in my own time and in my own personal
>>>> space
>>>> >> > i have never laughed AT someone but prefer to laugh with someone [
>>>> >> except
>>>> >> > in the instance of comedy ]
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
>>>> >> > To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> >> > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:57:16 +1000
>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Never had a boss you weren't honest about disliking (lie by
>>>> omission)?
>>>> >> A
>> ;>> >> > friend / partner / family member make a stupid decision or comment
>>>> >> that
>>>> >> > you smiled and bit your tongue to? A stupid joke you laughed along
>>>> >> with
>>>> >> > for reasons of social cohesion / subservience? Put on a brave face
>>>> >> when
>>>> >> > you wanted to cry or scream? Did your best not to look unhappy >>>> >> > when
>>>> >> being
>>>> >> > teased or laughed at? Smiled and posed for a photo? Looked like a
>>>> >> tougher
>>>> >> > version of yourself when walking past thugs? Pretended not to give
>>>> a
>>>> >> shit
>>>> >> > when someone said something that hurt? Pretended to be interested
>>>> when
>>>> >> > someone you like or thought worthy of respect was boring you?
>>>> Heaped
>>>> >> > praise on mediocre performance for what you thought were the right
>>>> >> > reasons?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Do you present the same way when delivering a speech as you do >>>> >> > when
>>>> >> you're
>>>> >> > getting pissed with your mates? Do you wear clothes you don't like
>>>> for
>>>> >> > business or other reasons, to fit in? Never looked back in
>>>> retrospect
>>>> >> and
>>>> >> > thought you were an idiot for trying to come across in a >>>> >> > particular
>>>> >> way to
>>>> >> > impress someone else? Presented someone with your representative >>>> >> > on
>>>> a
>>>> >> > date, as opposed to the real you? Waited until no one was around
>>>> >> before
>>>> >> > picking your nose?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Ever found yourslf picking up someone else's vernacular because
>>>> they
>>>> >> have
>>>> >> > a strong personality? Bought clothes or music or gadgets to 'fit
>>>> in'?
>>>> >> Or
>>>> >> > to not fit in...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Ever talked shit for an hour straight at a job interview or on a
>>>> date?
>>>> >> > Stifled laughter in order to not hurt someone else's20feelings...?
>>>> >> Tried
>>>> >> > not to look physically disgusted at something / someone who
>>>> disgusts
>>>> >> you?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Hrm...by my calculations, if the above is true then you're FULL OF
>>>> >> SHIT.
>>>> >> > Just like the rest of us (only slightly moreso ;)
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>> >> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
>>>> >> > On Behalf Of jerry bodkin
>>>> >> > Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 11:27 PM
>>>> >> > To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > actually I DON'T
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Same as, it leaves one a touch outspoken at times, but hey, f*£k
>>>& gt; it!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Jelly...... melting
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > From: stephen.l at live.com
>>>> >> > To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> >> > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:49:21 +0000
>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > actually I DON'T
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:13:39 +1200
>>>> >> >> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
>>>> >> >> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Cos we all pretend we're something we're not.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > ...cos no one wants to say so to your face?
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Keep Smiling...
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > http://www.myspace.com/themodelaircraftmuseum
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > http://www.myspace.com/paulwadyexperience
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Autism also affects adults.
>>>> >> >> > Most are isolated and ignored
>>>> >> >> > Think. Act. Transform Lives.
>>>> >> >> > www.think-differently.org.uk
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
>>>> >> >> > To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> >> >> > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:11:03 +1000
>>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead
& gt;>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > It's damn near illegal and harshly looked down upon to talk bad
>>>> >> about
>>>> >> >> a
>>>> >> >> > dead person
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Rraises some interesting questions for those who have an
>>>> >> alternative
>>>> >> >> set
>>>> >> >> > of ethics as espoused by bands such as Killing Joke etc. From
>>>> what
>>>> >> >> I've
>>>> >> >> > seen that tradition is given lip service but is full of holes >>>> >> >> > to
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> >> > extent that people will find a way to talk about whatever they
>>>> >> want.
>>>> >> >> > Personally I've never really bought into it anyway so I don't
>>>> feel
>>>> >> any
>>>> >> >> > compunctions either way.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > It doesn't generall y apply to enemies
>>>> >> >> > Doesn't apply to anyone who fits into any group it's currently
>>>> >> >> fashionable
>>>> >> >> > to dislike
>>>> >> >> > It's okay to say exactly what you want if you preface your
>>>> comments
>>>> >> >> with
>>>> >> >> > the assertion that you're only passing on what someone else >>>> >> >> > said
>>>> >> >> > It's behind closed doors and "just between us"
>>>> >> >> > All bets are off when you've had a few drinks.
>>>> >> >> > Lads / mates can talk about anything...
>>>> >> >> > Partners can talk about whatever they want
>>>> >> >> > It sells copy, I don't make the news I just print it...I'm just
>>>> >> doing
>>>> >> >> my
>>>> >> >> > job. I'm just filling a demand, don't blame me I don't buy the
>>>> >> >> tabloids I
>>>> >> >> > just make them...
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3 DUUXBCdt5IPg
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > WHY CAN'T WE JUST ADMIT IT.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>> >> >> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
>>>> >> >> > On Behalf Of sade1
>>>> >> >> > Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 10:11 AM
>>>> >> >> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> ...none of the...ass-kissing pieces of tripe that I've read
>>>> >> actually
>>>> >> >> >> mention his court cases and... settlements...
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > It's damn near illegal and harshly looked down upon to talk bad
>>>> & gt;> about
>>>> >> >> a
>>>> >> >> > dead person, even if they deliberately were a major asshole in
>>>> real
>>>> >> >> > life.** Even worse when it seems it was all a tragic accidental
>>>> >> death
>>>> >> >> (so
>>>> >> >> > they're saying).
>>>> >> >> > Worse now that his doctor has lawyered up i don't think they'll
>>>> >> have a
>>>> >> >> > straight answer on anything until legal and insurance cases >>>> >> >> > have
>>>> >> been
>>>> >> >> > settled.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > **besides, even now, television ratings are everything.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > I would like to see any one of his lawyers write a tell-all
>>>> about
>>>> >> any
>>>> >> >> or
>>>> >> >> > all of MJ's cases and settlements. Would reveal lots.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > ... ... ... ... ... ...
>>>> >> >> >
>>& gt;> >> >> > [looking at the current state of things..]
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > 'Save me...
>>>> >> >> > save me from Tomorrow..
>>>> >> >> > I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>> >> >> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>>> >> >> > <gathering at misera.net>
>>>> >> >> > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 10:05:26 AM
>>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Aside from the implication that paedophiles are ok ay if they've
>>>> >> also
>>>> >> >> > written some nice songs, my main grievance about this whole
>>>> bloody
>>>> >> >> circus
>>>> >> >> > is the media conspiracy to hush-up his charming recreational
>>>> >> >> activities. I
>>>> >> >> > could be wrong, but none of the eulogies, bios and ass-kissing
>>>> >> pieces
>>>> >> >> of
>>>> >> >> > tripe that I've read actually mention his court cases and
>>>> >> >> multi-million
>>>> >> >> > dollar out-of-court settlements. The closest any of them have
>>>> come
>>>> >> was
>>>> >> >> a
>>>> >> >> > sheepish remark that "[his] later life was dogged by legal
>>>> >> problems"..
>>>> >> >> > Since when did being arrested count as a 'legal problem'? That
>>>> >> makes
>>>> >> >> it
>>>> >> >> > sound like some boundary dispute with a neigbour, or at worst a
>>>> >> little
>>>> >> >> > income-tax evasion..
>>>&g t; >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > It's disgraceful. If Gary Glitter had actually written some
>>>> >> >> half-decent
>>>> >> >> > songs, does that mean he was really a nice guy? When he dies do
>>>> we
>>>> >> all
>>>> >> >> > have to agree not to mention his child molestation in case it
>>>> >> offends
>>>> >> >> > someone?
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Jim.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > --- On Sun, 28/6/09, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > It's all fucking meaningless. People have been force-fed this
>>>> inane
>>>> >> >> > bologna for years that MJ was some sort of "genius' (the most
>>>> >> abused
>>>> >> >> word
>>>> >> >> > in the English language). Pile of fucking crap.
>>>> >> ; >> > I'm sick of it.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Alex in NYC
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> >> > From: jerry bodkin
>>>> >> >> > Sent: Jun 28, 2009 11:24 AM
>>>> >> >> > To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> >> >> > Subject: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk
>>>> >> >> > To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk
>>>> >> >> > Subject: RE: [kj] Michael Jackson dead
>>>> >> >> > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:24:17 +0100
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> ; >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > If his fans liked his music, why didnt they have the c.d's,
>>>> >> downloads
>>>> >> >> etc
>>>> >> >> > already? Why the sudden rush to purchase and d/load. Somethings
>>>> >> smells
>>>> >> >> > and dont just mean his corpse!
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Jelly.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > From: dpeace at bigfoot.com
>>>> >> >> > To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> >> >> > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:07:37 +0100
>>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [kj] Michael Jackson dead
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Oh Christ.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8123085.stm
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Darren
>>>> >> >> > Hungerford, UK
>>>> >> >> >
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