[kj] OT: Bill Hicks
Darren A. Peace
dpeace at bigfoot.com
Sat Jan 31 18:57:06 EST 2009
Maybe not everyone.
I don't like Soundgarden much. I found the early, squealy albums unpleasant,
and the last one dull and contrived. I actually like the first STP album
more than all but "Superunknown", and think that Soundgarden looked really,
really silly.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f4/Sg91promo.jpg
But that means nothing other than that it's how I feel. No-one here has any
disproportionate force behind their views, imnsho, even the irritating,
bombastic ones like me.
I still think Axl should be peeled, though.
Darren
Hungerford, UK
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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: 31 January 2009 22:44
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
I wasn't referring to YOU when I alluded to Year Zero. "Year Zero" is
shorthand for Punk Rock's myopic scorched earth policy of renouncing
all that came before it.
Everyone on this list needs to chill the hell out a little bit.
Alex in NYC
On Jan 31, 2009, at 5:24 PM, iPat wrote:
> not what i said,
> i never referred to year zero, although i don't really know what you
> mean exactly by that.
>
> My point is that while we can sometimes take ourselves out to
> different genres where one or two finds may be the exception, you will
> generally be disposed to what you initially were turned on by. I may
> have a few 'metal' tracks in my collection but in general im more
> likely to default to where my journey really started, which is
> naturally influenced by the peer group at the time.
>
> For me, where i was in the UK at that time, it was the early 70's
> skinhead music which set me off due to my peers influence. I've never
> worn a rocker style leather jacket synonymous with rock music. The
> status quo rocker scene was the antithesis of my 'culture' and the
> music was abhorrent. That's not to say i don't have the odd early
> AC/DC or Pink Floyd track and you know my feelings on Rush. Whether
> any so called celeb is into a band has no effect on me but can
> titillate others to no end. That's people for you.
>
> I had a branch of industrial music that went off with mainly psychick
> tv but a lot of krautrock' industrial stuff didn't interest me as
> Orbital or Spiral tribe held little interest for Metallica fans. In
> fact my PTV collection is quite large with all the literature that i
> had and i think i will give it a suitable collector. Flat mates at the
> time fcking hated it, unable to understand my hysterics when 'Jesus
> Christ Walks on Water' was blasted out the window on number 10 volume
> control to the neighborhood.
>
> The crux of the matter though, is that the more i experience a wider
> scope of music, i find myself defaulting to the original inspirations.
> Whether you find the same is irrelevant in that you are you and of
> course your experiences will be unique to your disposition. I'll wager
> there is a disposition though. A recent remark on someone on this list
> in private correspondence has also shown him to deferring to his
> Groundhogs, Hawkwind, Todd Rundgren, Peter Green Fleetwood Mac. All of
> which i find completely abhorrent unless i want to pretend to be a
> music snob and pretend there's some intellectual relevance to it.
> there's not, i simply dont get off on it.
>
> It's like gigs, it simply amazes me that i can go to gigs and there's
> never a fight anymore......where are the balls ; )
>
> So whilst you may not agree with it, it is because i am not you as you
> are not me. I'm right though and i blame it on mother.......... : 0
>
> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net
> > wrote:
>>
>> I never fully subscribed to all that 'Year Zero' stuff. I love lots
>> of
>> metal. I adore Punk Rock. I like an unwieldy dollop of so-called
>> 'classic
>> rock.' I like bits of reggae. I like a lot of dance music. There's
>> more than
>> enough crap that I *don't* like, but at the end of the day, music
>> is music.
>> I'm too old to define myself by any single genre anymore.
>>
>> Henry Rollins of Black Flag, by the way (since they were invoked
>> earlier) is
>> a huge fan of Ted Nugent, Van Halen and Aerosmith.
>>
>> Alex in NYC
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