[kj] [OT] John Pilger: Obama is a corporate marketing creation
Brendan
bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Thu Aug 27 22:57:42 EDT 2009
I'll look into what his critics say about him cos that's something I
haven't done, if you have anything to substantiate your comments hit me,
I've only read a couple of his books and some articles, some telly debates
in Aussie etc. I rate him, not for his leftie politics, but because he
seems good at cutting through propaganda.
> Honorary degrees are about popularity, not ability. He's received as much
> criticism as he has praise; his reputation and status are not universal,
> and he isn't quite so respected outside of his fanbase.
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> And Mr Waugh is correct; Pilger's style and content are just like he says.
> So much of his readership already knows what the point of any selected
> work is, and often look to his books or articles as confirmation, rather
> than enlightenment.
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> Variations of Chomsky's comment can be found uttered in schoolyards acorss
> the world, any day of the week. Anyone who criticizes Pilger's work is
> doing so because they're jealous and wish they could write that well.
> Genius. I hope Chomsky didn't win any awards for that old chestnut.
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> Jim.
>
> --- On Thu, 27/8/09, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
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> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] John Pilger: Obama is a corporate marketing
> creation
> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Thursday, 27 August, 2009, 6:48 AM
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> Pilger has a ton of honourary degrees and awards for his investigative
> journalism, if you read one of his books such as The New Rulers of the
> World you'll see why. Highly recommended. His style does run to polemic,
> but IMO it's hard not to when talking about cynical manipulators and power
> mongers who use such eloquent and effective PR to cover up atrocities. I
> think the same could be said for Noam Chomsky and Robert Fisk, who always
> come to mind when I think of Pilger. i.e. the cream of the crop in that
> field.
>
> The wiki article on him has the following to say on that topic:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger
>
> The humorous writer Auberon Waugh, writing in The Spectator in the 1970s
> in response to an article Pilger had written alleging Thai complicity in
> child trafficking, coined the verb "to pilger", to present information in
> a sensationalist manner to reach a foregone conclusion
>
> Noam Chomsky has expressed the view that pilger and pilgerise were
> "invented by journalists furious about his incisive and courageous
> reporting, and knowing that the only response they are capable of is
> ridicule."[19]
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>> If he's not a conspiracy theorist, he's doing a solid impersonation of
>> one.... ;)
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