[kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2

[sade1]

> I left not long after that and went to the Royal Albert Hall to 

> see Nigel Kennedy perform the Four Seasons. It was a surreal day!

 
It verges on Clockwork Orange.

 
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   





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From: Phil Tofield <Phil.Tofield at uk.nyklogistics.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:14:43 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2


I was at the Poll Tax demo, and I firmly believe that it was the tactics of the police which turned it into a riot, and that this was quite possibly deliberate, on the orders of the evil Thatcher, in order to discredit the Anti-Poll Tax movement. And it worked, at least for a while.
 
It was a peaceful demonstration, everyone was happy, singing, banging improvised coke can drums, and just enjoying themselves. I left to go find somewhere for a piss, and all the side streets away from the main route of the march were full of riot vans. Dozens of them, all full of tooled up coppers, just waiting to go in. I can remember when I got back in and found my mates again, telling them that it was going to kick off soon. And sure enough, it did.
 
Remember that famous photo on the front of all the papers the next day which showed a police car surrounded by an ‘angry mob’ and someone throwing a scaffold pole through the back windows of the car? Well I was in that photo, and what the papers didn’t say was that the reason people were angry was that those two cops had just driven their car straight at the crowd at about 30 miles an hour! People were diving out of the way in fear of their lives! The papers were all full of stuff about how these 2 ‘brave’ policemen could have been killed, complete with pictures of the ‘heroes’ with their suitably glum looking families. Nothing was mentioned, of course, of the fact that these 2 fucking pricks could have actually killed or injured numerous people themselves with their act of stupidity. No wonder the mob was angry! (and no it wasn’t me who threw the scaffold pole, like most people I was just trying to get the hell away without getting my
 face smashed in by the riot police).
 
I left not long after that and went to the Royal Albert Hall to see Nigel Kennedy perform the Four Seasons. It was a surreal day!
 
Phil
(got my Heaven ticket today, wahooo!)
 

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From:folk devil [mailto:folk.devil at hotmail.com] 
Sent: 16 April 2009 22:53
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2
 
Sometimes, the tactics used by the Police don't help. E.g. during the Poll Tax demos they decided to box everyone into Trafalgar Square , with the use of horses, with nowhere to move to. 1000s of people, who naturally panic in such a situation. 
These so-called anarchists (oo strong semantic) are a distinct minority (like you say).
Most demonstrators are just exercising their right of the right of free speech and assembly, peaceably. They are not the trouble makers. The Police need the brains to work out who is who.
 

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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:40:44 +0000
From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2
No, I wouldn't compare the two, and no, they didn't kill anyone.
But having watched the chaos caused by a few 'wet lefties'- in London, France and Germany- the hundreds of thousands of pounds of damage caused, the thousands of police required to deal with those people and the colossal amount of barricades and barriers needed to protect private property, I can honestly say that we'd probably be a lot better off without them. Most people there seemed to be able to gather and protest with burning things and destroying anything they get their hands on, so I don't actually have much sympathy for twats who can't.
 
Besides, without rioters, we wouldn't need riot police, and probably wouldn't have as much police brutality. If any of those cops are found to be guilty, I hope they throw the book at them. And I'll not shed many tears if they do the same to anyone throwing bricks, trashing banks, looting shops or setting fire to buildings. If that's how you choose to express your opinion, you haven't got one worth hearing.
 
Rant over!

--- On Thu, 16/4/09, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
Gotta say mate, I don't think you can really compare a bunch of wet 'anarcho' lefties who put the odd window through with the likes of career criminals/murderers & chavs that kick members of the public to death in the street. Can you?
 
I didn't see any lefties kill anyone the other day, did you?
 
Not that I'm really defending the anarcho-weaners of course! It's all a fucking pose that they'll inevitably grow out of before they start their corporate career paths. Fuckin' Hippies!
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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Jim Harper
Sent: 16 April 2009 21:25
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2
... or the morons who think 'freedom of expression' entitles you to trash banks and set fire to buildings... 

--- On Thu, 16/4/09, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
 
Truth is & this is my opinion here (bear in mind I'd like to see Bliar sniped asap), that it would be good if the pigs did that to the chavs that kick people to death in the street & the career criminals that kill for power, money & status.  
 

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