[kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2

Phil Tofield Phil.Tofield at uk.nyklogistics.com
Fri Apr 17 13:14:43 EDT 2009


I was at the Poll Tax demo, and I firmly believe that it was the tactics of
the police which turned it into a riot, and that this was quite possibly
deliberate, on the orders of the evil Thatcher, in order to discredit the
Anti-Poll Tax movement. And it worked, at least for a while.



It was a peaceful demonstration, everyone was happy, singing, banging
improvised coke can drums, and just enjoying themselves. I left to go find
somewhere for a piss, and all the side streets away from the main route of
the march were full of riot vans. Dozens of them, all full of tooled up
coppers, just waiting to go in. I can remember when I got back in and found
my mates again, telling them that it was going to kick off soon. And sure
enough, it did.



Remember that famous photo on the front of all the papers the next day which
showed a police car surrounded by an 'angry mob' and someone throwing a
scaffold pole through the back windows of the car? Well I was in that photo,
and what the papers didn't say was that the reason people were angry was
that those two cops had just driven their car straight at the crowd at about
30 miles an hour! People were diving out of the way in fear of their lives!
The papers were all full of stuff about how these 2 'brave' policemen could
have been killed, complete with pictures of the 'heroes' with their suitably
glum looking families. Nothing was mentioned, of course, of the fact that
these 2 fucking pricks could have actually killed or injured numerous people
themselves with their act of stupidity. No wonder the mob was angry! (and no
it wasn't me who threw the scaffold pole, like most people I was just trying
to get the hell away without getting my face smashed in by the riot police).



I left not long after that and went to the Royal Albert Hall to see Nigel
Kennedy perform the Four Seasons. It was a surreal day!



Phil

(got my Heaven ticket today, wahooo!)



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From: folk devil [mailto:folk.devil at hotmail.com]
Sent: 16 April 2009 22:53
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2



Sometimes, the tactics used by the Police don't help. E.g. during the Poll
Tax demos they decided to box everyone into Trafalgar Square, with the use
of horses, with nowhere to move to. 1000s of people, who naturally panic in
such a situation.
These so-called anarchists (oo strong semantic) are a distinct minority
(like you say).
Most demonstrators are just exercising their right of the right of free
speech and assembly, peaceably. They are not the trouble makers. The Police
need the brains to work out who is who.


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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:40:44 +0000
From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2


No, I wouldn't compare the two, and no, they didn't kill anyone.

But having watched the chaos caused by a few 'wet lefties'- in London,
France and Germany- the hundreds of thousands of pounds of damage caused,
the thousands of police required to deal with those people and the colossal
amount of barricades and barriers needed to protect private property, I can
honestly say that we'd probably be a lot better off without them. Most
people there seemed to be able to gather and protest with burning things and
destroying anything they get their hands on, so I don't actually have much
sympathy for twats who can't.



Besides, without rioters, we wouldn't need riot police, and probably
wouldn't have as much police brutality. If any of those cops are found to be
guilty, I hope they throw the book at them. And I'll not shed many tears if
they do the same to anyone throwing bricks, trashing banks, looting shops or
setting fire to buildings. If that's how you choose to express your opinion,
you haven't got one worth hearing.



Rant over!


--- On Thu, 16/4/09, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

Gotta say mate, I don't think you can really compare a bunch of wet
'anarcho' lefties who put the odd window through with the likes of career
criminals/murderers & chavs that kick members of the public to death in the
street. Can you?



I didn't see any lefties kill anyone the other day, did you?



Not that I'm really defending the anarcho-weaners of course! It's all a
fucking pose that they'll inevitably grow out of before they start their
corporate career paths. Fuckin' Hippies!

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of Jim Harper
Sent: 16 April 2009 21:25
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Police Brutality part 2


... or the morons who think 'freedom of expression' entitles you to trash
banks and set fire to buildings...

--- On Thu, 16/4/09, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:



Truth is & this is my opinion here (bear in mind I'd like to see Bliar
sniped asap), that it would be good if the pigs did that to the chavs that
kick people to death in the street & the career criminals that kill for
power, money & status.




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