[kj] OT: Tender, moving YouTube video

[The Exorcist]

Let's see...

Rendition:
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-rendition1-2009feb01,0,7548176,full.story
---snip---
Under executive orders issued by Obama recently, 
the CIA still has authority to carry out what are 
known as renditions, secret abductions and 
transfers of prisoners to countries that cooperate with the United States.
---snip---

Wire Tapping: (Also take into account the outrage when Bush started this)
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/obama-doj-worse-than-bush
---snip---
It's an especially disappointing argument to hear 
from the Obama Administration. As a candidate, 
Senator Obama lamented that the Bush 
Administration "invoked a legal tool known as the 
'state secrets' privilege more than any other 
previous administration to get cases thrown out 
of civil court." He was right then, and we're 
dismayed that he and his team seem to have forgotten.

Sad as that is, it's the Department Of Justice's 
(read my comment below about the Justice Dept. 
and who it's being filled with) second argument 
that is the most pernicious. The DOJ claims that 
the U.S. Government is completely immune from 
litigation for illegal spying — that the 
Government can never be sued for surveillance 
that violates federal privacy statutes.
---snip---

Guantanamo? Nahhh. We got Bagram!:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/13/opinion/13mon1.html?ref=opinion
---snip---
The Obama administration is basking in praise for 
its welcome commitment to shut down the American 
detention center at Guantánamo Bay. But it is 
acting far less nobly when it comes to prisoners 
held at a larger, more secretive military 
detention facility at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan.
---snip---
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/16/liberals-angered-obamas-opposition-judicial-review-bagram-detainees/
---snip---
In an editorial this week, The New York Times 
claimed Bagram is "the next Guantanamo" and 
accused the Obama administration of recycling 
"extravagant claims of executive power."

That's because the Obama White House has sided 
with the Bush administration in its belief that 
the Bagram detainees, who are in a war zone, have 
no right to a court review despite a ruling last 
year by the Supreme Court granting Guantanamo detainees those rights.

The Justice Department argues that Bagram is 
different from Guantanamo because it is in an 
overseas war zone and the prisoners there are 
being held as part of an ongoing military action. 
The government argues that releasing enemy 
combatants into the Afghan war zone, or even 
diverting U.S. personnel there to consider their 
legal cases, could threaten security.
--snip---

Justice Dept:
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/04/obama-taps-fift.html
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/04/obama-stop-fill.html
http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/2009/04/07/president-obama-backs-riaa-in-online-file-sharing-case/

Now, if you look at the arguments that RIAA 
lawyers put forth in court, trust me, there is NO privacy.
Not to mention many other arguments that I won't 
list now as this one is enough.

Taxes:
Bette, Considering the amount of unsustainable 
spending that the Obama administration is planning, it
is just about impossible that it can be done with 
raising taxes all over the place. This 95% tax cut is gonna
be VERY short lived.

Tea Party Riot:
Oliver, there were no riots, it was actually 
quite peaceful. No burning objects thrown at people, no breaking windows
no flipping cars. I'd call that a protest, not a 
riot. It seems that they behaved far better than most of the "other" protests
I've seen over the past decade (or more).

Cheers,
Me

At 05:40 AM 4/17/2009, Stephen Lawrence wrote:

>hmmm bette but what about human rights issues 

>...guantanamo bay NOT closed and MORE troops to 

>afghanistan therefore furthering the bush legacy 

>....not exactly a man of peace

>

>

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>From: bettedillinger at live.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:43:22 -0400

>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Tender, moving YouTube video

>

>I just wanted to point out that President Obama 

>said he would not renew the tax cuts that the 

>Bush Administration gave to the top 1%.  He is 

>simply going to let them expire (2010, I 

>believe).  He has been consistent with this 

>statement throughout his campaign and 

>presidency.  Believe me, I would have thrown 'em 

>out the first day, and I do not think Obama is 

>the greatest hope for humanity.  However, 

>letting them expire shows he is  addressing the 

>issue in a way that will cause the least amount 

>of chaos.  He must be a good Chess player.

>

>Bette

>

> > Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:31:33 -0500

> > From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Tender, moving YouTube video

> >

> > Yes, it is an organized thing from Freedom Wors, American Solutions, and

> > FOX News. The first two are corporate lobbying groups.

> >

> > For example, this is the American Solutions commercial for the tax day

> > "tea parties":

> >

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vKr95e5aIE

> >

> > Since the Obama administration has cut taxes for 95% of Americans,

> > including the working and middle class, but has promised (yet has not

> > yet delivered) to raise taxes on income over $250,000 - to raise these

> > taxes to LESS THAN THEY WERE UNDER REAGAN, it means we are living in a

> > socialist, totalitarian society. So we gotta riot.

> >

> > -Oliver

> >

> >

> > Brendan Quinn wrote:

> > > Was just reading on alternet.org that that 

> who tea party thing was a farce

> > > too...FFS, it's the internet age, when are people gonna realise you can't

> > > get away with shit like that anymore.

> > >

> > >

> >

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