[kj] Official Site

[GREG SLAWSON]

I disagree w/you on one point Brendan--I don't think the true purpose of the govt is to represent and look after the interests of the people (even though we--about 1/2 of us in the US) vote for them. They really represent the interests of the corporations, financiers, and military more than anyone else. And most of the things the govt does do for us (unemployment benefits, the dole, the right to join unions, minimum wage) were fought for in the past. When was the last time the cops sided w/those on strike, trying to earn a decent wage, rather than the company ripping them off? 
 


From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 01:50:57 +1100
Subject: Re: [kj] Official Site









Bush IS a Nazi. 
 
Being young doesn’t preclude you from being harmed financially. 
 
And there IS a coherent message, despite some of the protestors committing the sin of having dreadlocks and not dressing very dapper (?!) - the govt and corporations have completely fucked things up for the population they are duty bound to represent, and whose interests they are supposed to look after (yes I know corporates are all about making money but they ostensibly have a responsibility as employers and big players in the marketplace etc etc) and a lot of people are totally disenfranchised with the lot of them.
 
About a year or more ago I talked about the bailouts, I said it would be a direct consequence of subprime. It’s extremely rare that individuals are bailed out, for completely irresponsible corporations to be bailed out is crazy in my mind. I could care less about stability. Things are pretty seriously unstable when you go through or are on the brink of bankruptcy, I can tell you from personal experience. 
 
But one way or another, the only way we ever seem to learn is the hard way – hence I think the ‘too big to fail’ corporates should have been left to fail. Otherwise we’re going to have to go through it all over again. Capitalism will inevitably revert towards a monopoly, corporations will get bigger and bigger as the bigger ones get more lobbying power, buy up the best employees, undercut the competition and use other illegal and unfair tactics, create false (and real) barriers to entry for everyone else, advertise the shit out of the market…and then complain when they shit in their own nest, bring the global economy right to the point of collapse, then demand taxpayer money to bail them out.
 
It’s surreal. The 21st century is off to an unbelievably shit start. Guys at the bank tonight on the FX desk were talking about recovery…I can’t see it yet. We’ll see. 
 




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of The Exorcist
Sent: Friday, 3 April 2009 01:36
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Official Site
 
Well, considering what they've done in the past demonstrations, the amount of different placards and causes
written on them, the different messages you get from everyone that's interviewed, yeah... 

This is not a particularcoherent message. Nothing like throwing flaming objects or other projectiles at ppl. who are trying to
protect property that is about to be trashed. Quite a few of them consider themselves "Anarchists" (though, I don't think
they're worthy of that title either) whose opinions are a bit more spread out than just the economic crisis. 

I also noticed that there seem to be lots of young folks in the audience. I doubt many of them had homes or 
massive retirement values. (Mind you this is pure conjecture on my part.)

You know, at least when Bush was around they all had a unifying theme "Bush Nazi, Bush Hitler, Bush Terrorist,
Bush Killer, Bush Warmonger". Now that he's gone they are all over the place. :(

Bailouts suck.... and should be killed...

At 10:13 AM 4/2/2009, Brendan Quinn wrote:


Do you honestly believe that’s what it all boils down to? Like none of them are a might testy about being expected to bail out the banks who largely got us into this mess in the first place? None of them have lost their jobs, their homes, seen their savings and retirement values demolished etc…and the money they paid into the govt’s coffers is going to those responsible? None of them are pissed off at the US govt (beginning with Clinton, furthered by Bush) for doing away with Glass Steagal – the law enacted after the GREAT DEPRESSION to prevent the same happening again? 
 



From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of The Exorcist
Sent: Friday, 3 April 2009 00:52
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Official Site
 
There were all sorts of Placards there. There is no cohesion or message, just a buncha twats who consider themselves
"anarchists" or whatever else acting like idiots. Personally, if I had the money (Irony?) I'd go and protest about "The Gathering" Email
list and what a pain it is to add attachments.

Now I'm off to write letters to the Gov't about the dangers of Sani-wipes and the countless billions
of microbes it's killed. 

FREE MICROBES FROM THE MURDEROUS HUMANS!!!

At 09:44 AM 4/2/2009, melinda grant wrote:

LOL LOL  ;D brendan looks like that protestor lost his way or was to early for london gay pride march that takes place in june!
 
milindafgrant
 

> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 02:11:48 +1300

> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Official Site

> 

> Totally off topic, was just speaking to a mate who works for the same bank

> but in London - he saw a G20 protestor with a GAY PRIDE placard...LOL.

> 

> > I thought it was about George Formby, actually.

> >

> >

> >

> > Darren

> >

> > Hungerford, UK

> >

> >

> >

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> > On

> > Behalf Of Alexander Smith

> > Sent: 02 April 2009 13:43

> > To: joker at Z6.com; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > Subject: Re: [kj] Official Site

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > If ya wanna go there, I'll meet ya there.

> >

> >

> >

> > Jesus, Shmesus -- it's all about Richard Hell.

> >

> >

> >

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Apr 2, 2009, at 8:36 AM, Rob's Arse wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > We're not going into the time/relativity debate are we?

> >

> > Mind you, I reckon it's easier than the "who invented punk debate"

> >

> > Now. If you asked me.............................

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > www.iamscuzzy.com www.myspace.com/scuzzywear

> >

> > --- vassifer at earthlink.net wrote:

> >

> > From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

> > To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)"

> > <gathering at misera.net>

> > Subject: Re: [kj] Official Site

> > Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 08:31:24 -0400

> >

> >

> >

> > "timeless wisdom doesnt need updating"

> >

> >

> >

> > 'Timeless' is clearly a relative term, here.

> >

> >

> >

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Apr 2, 2009, at 8:27 AM, bongo wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:58 AM, GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:

> >

> > SOme of the problems I have w/religion:

> > Although it may offer some good advice on how to live our lives, it

> >

> >

> >

> > .........1. Doesn't update it's teachings (it's the holy book and nothing

> > else)

> >

> >

> >

> > timeless wisdom doesnt need updating... the metaphors could probably be

> > re-hashed tho, i reckon Ali G. should do it..

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > .........2. tends to interpret the holy book in question in a mechanical

> > way

> > (fundamentalists)

> >

> > stoopid people do stoopid things, and our culture seems to be breeding

> > stoopidity!

> >

> > (its got Electrolites!)

> >

> >

> >

> > .........3. is deterministic (god will decide everything, so don't try to

> > change the way things are)

> >

> >

> >

> > alot of christian stuff is heavily borrowed from the Egyptians... if you

> > get

> > into that stuff, (like the Hermetica) theres similar tales with less

> > 'christian bullshit' attached...

> >

> > i doubt there was a real jesus (not even his real name ffs!) but if you

> > understand His teachings, it doesnt matter!

> >

> > if He was the Son of God, and so are We, then We are God, and We decide

> > what

> > happens... there is no creater there is a creating - and you and i are a

> > part of it (not 'apart from it' )

> >

> > what will you do with your power??

> >

> >

> >

> > as Tones on Tail put it . . . THERE'S ONLY ONE!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> >

> >

> > "due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been

> > postponed indefinitely..."

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