[kj] non-album tracks enquiry ... cybersank mixes

Brendan bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Sun Sep 28 22:28:28 EDT 2008

I was trying to indoctrinate my ex-nextdoor-neighbouress into Killing
Joke. Thought she'd be into the more melodic stuff, sent her an mp3,
probably something from Night Time I think, and she ended up emailing me
to say she was totally addicted to Seeind Red (not sure if she found it on
the website or if it was alraedy on her iTunes beacuse I'd given some KJ
to her ex BF).

So here ya go. I got hooked on Pandemonium but I'm into 98% of their stuff
now, BTATS is a favourite...


> Termite wrote:

> As much as they sound somewhat cheesily mid 90's chug rock now, I do

> wonder however if Millennium & Pandemonium would have been such the hits

> they became at the time without Cybersanks mixing.....

>

>

> To that point, I had a friend in the '90s who I tried to get into

> Killing Joke. He loved the whole Pandemonium album, liked the

> performance on Jon Stewart. Then he really, *really* loved the cybersank

> mix of "Pandemonium" (in the U.S. the LP had the non-cybersank mix, so

> that remix was a treasure). But he thinks Every. Other. Bit. of Killing

> Joke is crap.

>

> Come to think of it, he's a bit of an a$$hole, too. Could be a

> coincidence. :)

>

> Termite wrote:

>> Great info there, never realised that...must be where the mp3's leaked

>> on the net have come from that source. So its only a UK promo

>> cassette (not final release cassette) that contains Mathematics Of

>> Chaos (Aotearoa Mix) on it?

>>

>> We need Youth or Greg Hunter on here to leak original mixes, or

>> definitely an Inside Pandemonium release would be very interesting

>> indeed. Mathematics Of Chaos other than on promo besides, Four

>> Stations Of The Sun and Another Cult Goes Down have never seen any

>> sort of original mix release.

>>

>> As much as they sound somewhat cheesily mid 90's chug rock now, I do

>> wonder however if Millennium & Pandemonium would have been such the

>> hits they became at the time without Cybersanks mixing.....

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> *From:* drunk wish <mailto:dwish2000 at hotmail.com>

>> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:28 PM

>> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any

>> unmixeddemos from Pandemonium era?

>>

>> Early uk promo cassettes had the original Mathematics. I don't

>> think it ever officially made it onto cd. We need someone with an

>> original tape and good gear with which to transfer it.

>>

>> T.

>>

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>> From: npscott at blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>

>> To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

>> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:13:30 +0100

>> Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any

>> unmixed demos from Pandemonium era?

>>

>> I wonder if anyone actually owns a full wav from the original

>> source, I mean it was never released on cd anywhere was it?

>> Certainly not on the Alchemy and War Dance CD collectives.

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> *From:* death watch <mailto:dwish2000 at hotmail.com>

>> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:04 PM

>> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any

>> unmixeddemos from Pandemonium era?

>>

>> I got all excited by that torrent and then on closer

>> inspection realized the version of Mathematics... is an mp3.

>> If anyone has a full .wav of the original Mathematics, I would

>> love that - they indeed missed a huge opportunity not

>> including the original mixes on the reissue. Maybe we'll yet

>> see some sort of "Inside Pandemonium" set.

>>

>> T.

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>> From: npscott at blueyonder.co.uk

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:51:08 +0100

>> Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any

>> unmixed demos from Pandemonium era?

>>

>> This had put me in geek mode, and I have tracked down a

>> torrent that has collectively, including Mathematics Of Chaos

>> original mix, all the Pandemonium Era Mixes.

>>

>> After hearing how much better the original Millennium is, and

>> knowing how much better the Pandemonium original mix is, I

>> wished they would ahve put the originals on the remaster.

>>

>> Strange as well how in the US on the original pressing of

>> Pandemonium Album it didnt have the Cybersank mix of

>> Pandemonium on it unlike the UK version, and the CD Single of

>> Millennium had the original Mix on it whereas we were denied

>> it in the UK.

>>

>> Speaking of Cybersank, does anyone know anything about the

>> remixers?....nothing crops up on Wiki, all I know is they did

>> Pandemonium, Millennium and swedish rockers Clawfinger's

>> "Warfair" remixes.

>>

>> Torrent linky

>> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4372734/Killing_Joke_-_Pandemonium_Album_Remixes_FLAC

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> *From:* Rob's Arse <mailto:joker at Z6.com>

>> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:44 AM

>> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone

>> ownany unmiceddemosfromPandemonium era?

>>

>> Neil

>>

>> I'll have a look if I still have it.

>> Welcome back by the way - see you next week!

>>

>>

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>> --- 65snoopy at gmail.com <mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> From: "Neil Perry" <65snoopy at gmail.com

>> <mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>>

>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>> <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>

>> Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own

>> any unmiceddemosfromPandemonium era?

>> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:34:57 +0200

>>

>> Hey Bob, yes, my mistake, it says Zoo on it so I have the

>> US edition then.

>> Who'd have thunk it.

>>

>> Now I have to find that original mix of Mathematics that I

>> have somewhere.

>>

>> OK enough nerdiness

>> N

>>

>> 2008/9/25 Bob Barathy <bbarathy at btinternet.com

>> <mailto:bbarathy at btinternet.com>>

>>

>> Hi Neil. Check your CD again. If the CD is blue and

>> the liner says Zoo on it anywhere then it's the US

>> version; which featured the original Aotearoa mix on

>> it (and the UK CD did not). I've never heard of a

>> limited UK CD with Aotearoa on it but if I'm wrong

>> please let me know!

>>

>> boBToo

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>> -----Original Message-----

>> *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net

>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>

>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>]*On Behalf

>> Of *Termite

>> *Sent:* 24 September 2008 22:51

>> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>> band!)

>> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry -

>> Anyone own any unmiceddemosfromPandemonium era?

>>

>> Just looking at my UK CD original of the

>> Millennium single cat no. BFLD12 and it doesnt

>> have the Aotearoa Mix of it on there?!?!

>>

>> 1) Millennium (Cyersank Edit)

>> 2) Millennium (Back To Orion Mix)

>> 3) Millennium (Cyersank Extended) * Same version

>> as on the Album

>> 4) Millennium (23 Minutes To Midnight Mix)

>> 5) Millennium (Dissolving Particle Reaction Mix)

>>

>> So does this mean that there was a limited edition

>> CD single with the Aotearoa Mix on it?

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> *From:* Neil Perry <mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>

>> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke

>> (the band!) <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:26 PM

>> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry -

>> Anyone own any unmiceddemosfrom Pandemonium era?

>>

>> Just looking at my (UK) copy of the CD single

>> - it has six versions of Millennium

>> on it and a version of Exorcism. The first

>> track, the 'Aotearoa Mix', is the original

>> version of Millennium that was on the

>> Pandemonium promos before they went

>> and replaced it with an inferior version.

>> Honest, guv.

>>

>> Neil

>>

>>

>> 2008/9/24 Termite <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk

>> <mailto:npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>>

>>

>> Certainly in the UK nope, The Millennium

>> CD Single has the Cybersank Radio Edit and

>> the full length Cybersank mix (which also

>> appears on the album) but even the

>> remastered album contains the full length

>> Cybersank mix.

>>

>> Has anyone got the original from the promo

>> to kindly upload to rapidshare or anything?

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> *From:* Neil Perry

>> <mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>

>> *To:* A list about all things Killing

>> Joke (the band!)

>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2008

>> 8:29 PM

>> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks

>> enquiry - Anyone own any unmiced

>> demosfrom Pandemonium era?

>>

>> The 'original' version of Millennium

>> is on the CD single - is that the one

>> you meant? It was on the first promos

>> of Pandemonium before they

>> went and changed it and put the cyber

>> versions on instead.

>>

>> N in N

>>

>> 2008/9/24 Termite

>> <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk

>> <mailto:npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>>

>>

>> Thanks for that, shame isn't it?

>> Would be really interesting

>> hearing that tune in its original

>> mix. Same with Millennium,

>> although Pandamonium has been

>> released as an original version,

>> as well as with the cheese rock

>> overstabbings of the Cybersank

>> mix, Millennium as far as I am

>> aware has never been released

>> without the Cybersank mixes.

>>

>> Anyone close to the band that has

>> obtained unmixed versions of

>> Millennium, Four Stations Of The

>> Sun and Another Cult Goes Down?

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> *From:* Javier Garcia

>> <mailto:jagargal at lycos.com>

>> *To:* A list about all things

>> Killing Joke (the band!)

>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September

>> 24, 2008 4:36 PM

>> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album

>> tracks enquiry

>>

>> As far as i remember and as

>> weird as it may sound there's

>> no other version than that

>> "Portobello mix", it's on the

>> Pandemonium remaster and i

>> have it on the Exorcism single

>> on vinyl too.

>>

>> Javier

>> mexcity

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>> *Subject : *Re: [kj]

>> non-album tracks enquiry

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>> *Date : *Wed, 24 Sep 2008

>> 09:45:15 +0100

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>> *From : *"Terrnite"

>> <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk

>> <mailto:npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>>

>>

>> *To : *"A list about all

>> things Killing Joke \(the

>> band!\)"

>> <gathering at misera.net

>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>

>>

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>>

>> I don't think it appears

>> on the Pandemonium single,

>> certainly not in the UK,

>> only on the Exorcism 10" &

>> CD, unless you mistakingly

>> mean it also features on

>> the Pandemonium album

>> (remaster) . :-)

>>

>>

>>

>> My question, however,

>> refers to whether anyone

>> knows if Another Cult Goes

>> Down has ever appeared or

>> leaked in a none remixed

>> format. Certainly on both

>> the Exorcism single and

>> Pandemonium Album remaster

>> it is the Portobello Mix.

>>

>>

>>

>> If my memory serves me

>> correctly I am sure there

>> was a demo leak of Four

>> Stations Of The Sun which

>> wasn't a remix, so really

>> I just want to know if

>> anyone either has a leak

>> or at least knows if

>> Another Cult Goes Down

>> exists out there other

>> than in the bands archived

>> master tapes unabridged. I

>> would be interested

>> hearing it as a demo.

>>

>>

>>

>> As it states Portobello

>> mix by the way, does

>> anyone know who actually

>> was behind doing the

>> remix, I presume Youth? It

>> does sound very dub.

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>>

>> From: J Casavola

>>

>> To: A list about all

>> things Killing Joke (the

>> band!)

>>

>> Sent: Wednesday, September

>> 24, 2008 3:39 AM

>>

>> Subject: Re: [kj]

>> non-album tracks enquiry

>>

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>> Another Cult Goes down

>> also appears on the

>> Pandemonium Single as well.

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>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>

>>

>> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008

>> 16:15:51 +0100

>>

>> Subject: Re: [kj]

>> non-album tracks enquiry

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Speaking of Another Cult

>> Goes Down (I have always

>> loved that track), do you,

>> or anyone else know

>> whether it has ever been

>> leaked anywhere as a demo

>> or in a none remixed

>> format??? (not the

>> Portobello mix)

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

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>> From: Phillipps Marc

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>> ; A list about all things

>> Killing Joke (the band!)

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>> Sent: Tuesday, September

>> 23, 2008 3:15 PM

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>> Subject: Re: [kj]

>> non-album tracks enquiry

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>> >Another Cult Goes Down

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>> >Four Stations of the Sun

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>> >Drug

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>> >Hollywood Babylon

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>> >Mass

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>> These all date from the

>> Pandemonium/Democracy era,

>> line up would be

>> Jaz/Geordie/Youth and

>> "drummer" (probably Dugmore)

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>> ACGD was on the Exorcism

>> EP, FSOTS was only

>> released in a remixed form

>> (can't remember what

>> single it turned up with

>> off the top of my head

>> though), Drug turned up on

>> the soundtrack for Mortal

>> Combat 2, Hollywood

>> Babylon was on the

>> soundtrack for Showgirls

>> and Mass the B Side to

>> Democracy

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>> >Cheers!

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>> This wasn't a KJ track; it

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