[kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any unmixed demos from Pandemonium era?

[Neil Perry]

A while back I sent the cassette to Rob and he copied it onto CD.
I've since moved house and have just spent an hour looking
for either the tape or the CD Rob sent me back - and I don't seem to
have either anymore. I know the Mathematics mp3 got passed around
among gatherers at the time though. I had it on my iTunes but
my mac died last year so I lost everything.
What I'm saying is, I am crap.
Anyway, Rob says he is looking for it, so... over to you pal.
N

2008/9/25 drunk wish <dwish2000 at hotmail.com>


>  Early uk promo cassettes had the original Mathematics. I don't think it

> ever officially made it onto cd. We need someone with an original tape and

> good gear with which to transfer it.

>

> T.

>

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> From: npscott at blueyonder.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:13:30 +0100

>

> Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any unmixed demos

> from Pandemonium era?

>

> I wonder if anyone actually owns a full wav from the original source, I

> mean it was never released on cd anywhere was it?  Certainly not on the

> Alchemy and War Dance CD collectives.

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* death watch <dwish2000 at hotmail.com>

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> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:04 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any unmixeddemos

> from Pandemonium era?

>

> I got all excited by that torrent and then on closer inspection realized

> the version of Mathematics... is an mp3. If anyone has a full .wav of the

> original Mathematics, I would love that - they indeed missed a huge

> opportunity not including the original mixes on the reissue. Maybe we'll yet

> see some sort of "Inside Pandemonium" set.

>

> T.

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> From: npscott at blueyonder.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:51:08 +0100

> Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any unmixed demos

> from Pandemonium era?

>

> This had put me in geek mode, and I have tracked down a torrent that has

> collectively, including Mathematics Of Chaos original mix, all the

> Pandemonium Era Mixes.

>

> After hearing how much better the original Millennium is, and knowing how

> much better the Pandemonium original mix is, I wished they would ahve put

> the originals on the remaster.

>

> Strange as well how in the US on the original pressing of Pandemonium Album

> it didnt have the Cybersank mix of Pandemonium on it unlike the UK version,

> and the CD Single of Millennium had the original Mix on it whereas we were

> denied it in the UK.

>

> Speaking of Cybersank, does anyone know anything about the

> remixers?....nothing crops up on Wiki, all I know is they did Pandemonium,

> Millennium and swedish rockers Clawfinger's "Warfair" remixes.

>

> Torrent linky

> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4372734/Killing_Joke_-_Pandemonium_Album_Remixes_FLAC

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Rob's Arse <joker at Z6.com>

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> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:44 AM

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone ownany

> unmiceddemosfromPandemonium era?

>

> Neil

>

> I'll have a look if I still have it.

> Welcome back by the way - see you next week!

>

>

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> --- 65snoopy at gmail.com wrote:

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> From: "Neil Perry" <65snoopy at gmail.com>

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <

> gathering at misera.net>

> Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any

> unmiceddemosfromPandemonium era?

> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:34:57 +0200

>

> Hey Bob, yes, my mistake, it says Zoo on it so I have the US edition then.

> Who'd have thunk it.

>

> Now I have to find that original mix of Mathematics that I have somewhere.

>

> OK enough nerdiness

> N

>

> 2008/9/25 Bob Barathy <bbarathy at btinternet.com>

>

>  Hi Neil. Check your CD again. If the CD is blue and the liner says Zoo on

> it anywhere then it's the US  version; which featured the original Aotearoa

> mix on it (and the UK CD did not). I've never heard of a limited UK CD with

> Aotearoa on it but if I'm wrong please let me know!

>

> boBToo

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> *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> *On Behalf Of *Termite

> *Sent:* 24 September 2008 22:51

> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>  *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any

> unmiceddemosfromPandemonium era?

>

>   Just looking at my UK CD original of the Millennium single cat no.

> BFLD12 and it doesnt have the Aotearoa Mix of it on there?!?!

>

> 1) Millennium (Cyersank Edit)

> 2) Millennium (Back To Orion Mix)

> 3) Millennium (Cyersank Extended) * Same version as on the Album

> 4) Millennium (23 Minutes To Midnight Mix)

> 5) Millennium (Dissolving Particle Reaction Mix)

>

> So does this mean that there was a limited edition CD single with the

> Aotearoa Mix on it?

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>

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> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:26 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any

> unmiceddemosfrom Pandemonium era?

>

> Just looking at my (UK) copy of the CD single - it has six versions of

> Millennium

> on it and a version of Exorcism. The first track, the 'Aotearoa Mix', is

> the original

> version of Millennium that was on the Pandemonium promos before they went

> and replaced it with an inferior version. Honest, guv.

>

> Neil

>

>

> 2008/9/24 Termite <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>

>

>  Certainly in the UK nope, The Millennium CD Single has the

> Cybersank Radio Edit and the full length Cybersank mix (which also appears

> on the album) but even the remastered album contains the full length

> Cybersank mix.

>

> Has anyone got the original from the promo to kindly upload to rapidshare

> or anything?

>

>  ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com>

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>   *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:29 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any unmiced

> demosfrom Pandemonium era?

>

> The 'original' version of Millennium is on the CD single - is that the one

> you meant? It was on the first promos of Pandemonium before they

> went and changed it and put the cyber versions on instead.

>

> N in N

>

> 2008/9/24 Termite <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>

>

>  Thanks for that, shame isn't it?  Would be really interesting hearing

> that tune in its original mix.  Same with Millennium, although Pandamonium

> has been released as an original version, as well as with the cheese rock

> overstabbings of the Cybersank mix, Millennium as far as I am aware has

> never been released without the Cybersank mixes.

>

> Anyone close to the band that has obtained unmixed versions of Millennium,

> Four Stations Of The Sun and Another Cult Goes Down?

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Javier Garcia <jagargal at lycos.com>

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> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:36 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry

>

> As far as i remember and as weird as it may sound there's no other version

> than that "Portobello mix", it's on the Pandemonium remaster and i have it

> on the Exorcism single on vinyl too.

>

> Javier

> mexcity

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> *Date : *Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:45:15 +0100

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> *From : *"Terrnite" <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>

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> *To : *"A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)" <

> gathering at misera.net>

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>

> I don't think it appears on the Pandemonium single, certainly not in the

> UK, only on the Exorcism 10" & CD, unless you mistakingly mean it also

> features on the Pandemonium album (remaster) . :-)

>

>

>

> My question, however, refers to whether anyone knows if Another Cult Goes

> Down has ever appeared or leaked in a none remixed format. Certainly on both

> the Exorcism single and Pandemonium Album remaster it is the Portobello Mix.

>

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>

> If my memory serves me correctly I am sure there was a demo leak of Four

> Stations Of The Sun which wasn't a remix, so really I just want to know if

> anyone either has a leak or at least knows if Another Cult Goes Down exists

> out there other than in the bands archived master tapes unabridged. I would

> be interested hearing it as a demo.

>

>

>

> As it states Portobello mix by the way, does anyone know who actually was

> behind doing the remix, I presume Youth? It does sound very dub.

>

> ----- Original Message -----

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> From: J Casavola

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> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

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> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 3:39 AM

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> Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry

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> Another Cult Goes down also appears on the Pandemonium Single as well.

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> From: npscott at blueyonder.co.uk

>

> To: gathering at misera.net

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> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:15:51 +0100

>

> Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry

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>

> Speaking of Another Cult Goes Down (I have always loved that track), do

> you, or anyone else know whether it has ever been leaked anywhere as a demo

> or in a none remixed format??? (not the Portobello mix)

>

> ----- Original Message -----

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> From: Phillipps Marc

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> To: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> band!)

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> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:15 PM

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> Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry

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> >Another Cult Goes Down

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> >Four Stations of the Sun

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> >Drug

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> >Hollywood Babylon

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> >Mass

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> These all date from the Pandemonium/Democracy era, line up would be

> Jaz/Geordie/Youth and "drummer" (probably Dugmore)

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> ACGD was on the Exorcism EP, FSOTS was only released in a remixed form

> (can't remember what single it turned up with off the top of my head

> though), Drug turned up on the soundtrack for Mortal Combat 2, Hollywood

> Babylon was on the soundtrack for Showgirls and Mass the B Side to Democracy

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> >Cheers!

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> This wasn't a KJ track; it was a comedy series about a bar in Boston

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> Marc.

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