[kj] non-album tracks enquiry ... cybersank mixes
Alex Smith
vassifer at earthlink.net
Fri Sep 26 15:21:23 EDT 2008
That's odd. I can't imagine someone *ONLY* liking PANDE-era KJ.
Alex in NYC
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>From: Jiri <unspeakable at sbcglobal.net>
>Sent: Sep 26, 2008 3:07 PM
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry ... cybersank mixes
>
>Termite wrote:
>As much as they sound somewhat cheesily mid 90's chug rock now, I do
>wonder however if Millennium & Pandemonium would have been such the hits
>they became at the time without Cybersanks mixing.....
>
>
>To that point, I had a friend in the '90s who I tried to get into
>Killing Joke. He loved the whole Pandemonium album, liked the
>performance on Jon Stewart. Then he really, *really* loved the cybersank
>mix of "Pandemonium" (in the U.S. the LP had the non-cybersank mix, so
>that remix was a treasure). But he thinks Every. Other. Bit. of Killing
>Joke is crap.
>
>Come to think of it, he's a bit of an a$$hole, too. Could be a
>coincidence. :)
>
>Termite wrote:
>> Great info there, never realised that...must be where the mp3's leaked
>> on the net have come from that source. So its only a UK promo
>> cassette (not final release cassette) that contains Mathematics Of
>> Chaos (Aotearoa Mix) on it?
>>
>> We need Youth or Greg Hunter on here to leak original mixes, or
>> definitely an Inside Pandemonium release would be very interesting
>> indeed. Mathematics Of Chaos other than on promo besides, Four
>> Stations Of The Sun and Another Cult Goes Down have never seen any
>> sort of original mix release.
>>
>> As much as they sound somewhat cheesily mid 90's chug rock now, I do
>> wonder however if Millennium & Pandemonium would have been such the
>> hits they became at the time without Cybersanks mixing.....
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* drunk wish <mailto:dwish2000 at hotmail.com>
>> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:28 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any
>> unmixeddemos from Pandemonium era?
>>
>> Early uk promo cassettes had the original Mathematics. I don't
>> think it ever officially made it onto cd. We need someone with an
>> original tape and good gear with which to transfer it.
>>
>> T.
>>
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>> From: npscott at blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>
>> To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
>> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:13:30 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any
>> unmixed demos from Pandemonium era?
>>
>> I wonder if anyone actually owns a full wav from the original
>> source, I mean it was never released on cd anywhere was it?
>> Certainly not on the Alchemy and War Dance CD collectives.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* death watch <mailto:dwish2000 at hotmail.com>
>> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:04 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any
>> unmixeddemos from Pandemonium era?
>>
>> I got all excited by that torrent and then on closer
>> inspection realized the version of Mathematics... is an mp3.
>> If anyone has a full .wav of the original Mathematics, I would
>> love that - they indeed missed a huge opportunity not
>> including the original mixes on the reissue. Maybe we'll yet
>> see some sort of "Inside Pandemonium" set.
>>
>> T.
>>
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>> From: npscott at blueyonder.co.uk
>> To: gathering at misera.net
>> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:51:08 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any
>> unmixed demos from Pandemonium era?
>>
>> This had put me in geek mode, and I have tracked down a
>> torrent that has collectively, including Mathematics Of Chaos
>> original mix, all the Pandemonium Era Mixes.
>>
>> After hearing how much better the original Millennium is, and
>> knowing how much better the Pandemonium original mix is, I
>> wished they would ahve put the originals on the remaster.
>>
>> Strange as well how in the US on the original pressing of
>> Pandemonium Album it didnt have the Cybersank mix of
>> Pandemonium on it unlike the UK version, and the CD Single of
>> Millennium had the original Mix on it whereas we were denied
>> it in the UK.
>>
>> Speaking of Cybersank, does anyone know anything about the
>> remixers?....nothing crops up on Wiki, all I know is they did
>> Pandemonium, Millennium and swedish rockers Clawfinger's
>> "Warfair" remixes.
>>
>> Torrent linky
>> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4372734/Killing_Joke_-_Pandemonium_Album_Remixes_FLAC
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Rob's Arse <mailto:joker at Z6.com>
>> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:44 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone
>> ownany unmiceddemosfromPandemonium era?
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> I'll have a look if I still have it.
>> Welcome back by the way - see you next week!
>>
>>
>>
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>> --- 65snoopy at gmail.com <mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: "Neil Perry" <65snoopy at gmail.com
>> <mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>>
>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>> <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own
>> any unmiceddemosfromPandemonium era?
>> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:34:57 +0200
>>
>> Hey Bob, yes, my mistake, it says Zoo on it so I have the
>> US edition then.
>> Who'd have thunk it.
>>
>> Now I have to find that original mix of Mathematics that I
>> have somewhere.
>>
>> OK enough nerdiness
>> N
>>
>> 2008/9/25 Bob Barathy <bbarathy at btinternet.com
>> <mailto:bbarathy at btinternet.com>>
>>
>> Hi Neil. Check your CD again. If the CD is blue and
>> the liner says Zoo on it anywhere then it's the US
>> version; which featured the original Aotearoa mix on
>> it (and the UK CD did not). I've never heard of a
>> limited UK CD with Aotearoa on it but if I'm wrong
>> please let me know!
>>
>> boBToo
>> www.killingjoke.co.uk <http://www.killingjoke.co.uk/>
>> www.teamkinetic.co.uk <http://www.teamkinetic.co.uk/>
>> www.bobtoo.co.uk <http://www.bobtoo.co.uk/>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>]*On Behalf
>> Of *Termite
>> *Sent:* 24 September 2008 22:51
>> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry -
>> Anyone own any unmiceddemosfromPandemonium era?
>>
>> Just looking at my UK CD original of the
>> Millennium single cat no. BFLD12 and it doesnt
>> have the Aotearoa Mix of it on there?!?!
>>
>> 1) Millennium (Cyersank Edit)
>> 2) Millennium (Back To Orion Mix)
>> 3) Millennium (Cyersank Extended) * Same version
>> as on the Album
>> 4) Millennium (23 Minutes To Midnight Mix)
>> 5) Millennium (Dissolving Particle Reaction Mix)
>>
>> So does this mean that there was a limited edition
>> CD single with the Aotearoa Mix on it?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Neil Perry <mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>
>> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke
>> (the band!) <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:26 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry -
>> Anyone own any unmiceddemosfrom Pandemonium era?
>>
>> Just looking at my (UK) copy of the CD single
>> - it has six versions of Millennium
>> on it and a version of Exorcism. The first
>> track, the 'Aotearoa Mix', is the original
>> version of Millennium that was on the
>> Pandemonium promos before they went
>> and replaced it with an inferior version.
>> Honest, guv.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> 2008/9/24 Termite <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk
>> <mailto:npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>>
>>
>> Certainly in the UK nope, The Millennium
>> CD Single has the Cybersank Radio Edit and
>> the full length Cybersank mix (which also
>> appears on the album) but even the
>> remastered album contains the full length
>> Cybersank mix.
>>
>> Has anyone got the original from the promo
>> to kindly upload to rapidshare or anything?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Neil Perry
>> <mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>
>> *To:* A list about all things Killing
>> Joke (the band!)
>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2008
>> 8:29 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album tracks
>> enquiry - Anyone own any unmiced
>> demosfrom Pandemonium era?
>>
>> The 'original' version of Millennium
>> is on the CD single - is that the one
>> you meant? It was on the first promos
>> of Pandemonium before they
>> went and changed it and put the cyber
>> versions on instead.
>>
>> N in N
>>
>> 2008/9/24 Termite
>> <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk
>> <mailto:npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>>
>>
>> Thanks for that, shame isn't it?
>> Would be really interesting
>> hearing that tune in its original
>> mix. Same with Millennium,
>> although Pandamonium has been
>> released as an original version,
>> as well as with the cheese rock
>> overstabbings of the Cybersank
>> mix, Millennium as far as I am
>> aware has never been released
>> without the Cybersank mixes.
>>
>> Anyone close to the band that has
>> obtained unmixed versions of
>> Millennium, Four Stations Of The
>> Sun and Another Cult Goes Down?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Javier Garcia
>> <mailto:jagargal at lycos.com>
>> *To:* A list about all things
>> Killing Joke (the band!)
>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September
>> 24, 2008 4:36 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [kj] non-album
>> tracks enquiry
>>
>> As far as i remember and as
>> weird as it may sound there's
>> no other version than that
>> "Portobello mix", it's on the
>> Pandemonium remaster and i
>> have it on the Exorcism single
>> on vinyl too.
>>
>> Javier
>> mexcity
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> *Subject : *Re: [kj]
>> non-album tracks enquiry
>>
>> *Date : *Wed, 24 Sep 2008
>> 09:45:15 +0100
>>
>> *From : *"Terrnite"
>> <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk
>> <mailto:npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>>
>>
>> *To : *"A list about all
>> things Killing Joke \(the
>> band!\)"
>> <gathering at misera.net
>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't think it appears
>> on the Pandemonium single,
>> certainly not in the UK,
>> only on the Exorcism 10" &
>> CD, unless you mistakingly
>> mean it also features on
>> the Pandemonium album
>> (remaster) . :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> My question, however,
>> refers to whether anyone
>> knows if Another Cult Goes
>> Down has ever appeared or
>> leaked in a none remixed
>> format. Certainly on both
>> the Exorcism single and
>> Pandemonium Album remaster
>> it is the Portobello Mix.
>>
>>
>>
>> If my memory serves me
>> correctly I am sure there
>> was a demo leak of Four
>> Stations Of The Sun which
>> wasn't a remix, so really
>> I just want to know if
>> anyone either has a leak
>> or at least knows if
>> Another Cult Goes Down
>> exists out there other
>> than in the bands archived
>> master tapes unabridged. I
>> would be interested
>> hearing it as a demo.
>>
>>
>>
>> As it states Portobello
>> mix by the way, does
>> anyone know who actually
>> was behind doing the
>> remix, I presume Youth? It
>> does sound very dub.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: J Casavola
>>
>> To: A list about all
>> things Killing Joke (the
>> band!)
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September
>> 24, 2008 3:39 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [kj]
>> non-album tracks enquiry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Another Cult Goes down
>> also appears on the
>> Pandemonium Single as well.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> <mailto:npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>
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>> To: gathering at misera.net
>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008
>> 16:15:51 +0100
>>
>> Subject: Re: [kj]
>> non-album tracks enquiry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Speaking of Another Cult
>> Goes Down (I have always
>> loved that track), do you,
>> or anyone else know
>> whether it has ever been
>> leaked anywhere as a demo
>> or in a none remixed
>> format??? (not the
>> Portobello mix)
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Phillipps Marc
>>
>> To:
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>> <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
>> ; A list about all things
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>> 23, 2008 3:15 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [kj]
>> non-album tracks enquiry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >Another Cult Goes Down
>>
>>
>>
>> >Four Stations of the Sun
>>
>>
>>
>> >Drug
>>
>>
>>
>> >Hollywood Babylon
>>
>>
>>
>> >Mass
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> These all date from the
>> Pandemonium/Democracy era,
>> line up would be
>> Jaz/Geordie/Youth and
>> "drummer" (probably Dugmore)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ACGD was on the Exorcism
>> EP, FSOTS was only
>> released in a remixed form
>> (can't remember what
>> single it turned up with
>> off the top of my head
>> though), Drug turned up on
>> the soundtrack for Mortal
>> Combat 2, Hollywood
>> Babylon was on the
>> soundtrack for Showgirls
>> and Mass the B Side to
>> Democracy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >Cheers!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This wasn't a KJ track; it
>> was a comedy series about
>> a bar in Boston
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>> Marc.
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