[kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any unmixeddemos from Pandemonium era?

[Brendan]

I LOVE cheesy mid-90s chug rock :)

Wonder how 2003 will stand up in 2017...?


> Great info there, never realised that...must be where the mp3's leaked on

> the net have come from that source.  So its only a UK promo cassette (not

> final release cassette) that contains Mathematics Of Chaos (Aotearoa Mix)

> on it?

>

> We need Youth or Greg Hunter on here to leak original mixes, or definitely

> an Inside Pandemonium release would be very interesting indeed.

> Mathematics Of Chaos other than on promo besides, Four Stations Of The Sun

> and Another Cult Goes Down have never seen any sort of original mix

> release.

>

> As much as they sound somewhat cheesily mid 90's chug rock now, I do

> wonder however if Millennium & Pandemonium would have been such the hits

> they became at the time without Cybersanks mixing.....

>   ----- Original Message -----

>   From: drunk wish

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>   Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:28 PM

>   Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any unmixeddemos

> from Pandemonium era?

>

>

>   Early uk promo cassettes had the original Mathematics. I don't think it

> ever officially made it onto cd. We need someone with an original tape

> and good gear with which to transfer it.

>

>   T.

>

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>   From: npscott at blueyonder.co.uk

>   To: gathering at misera.net

>   Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:13:30 +0100

>   Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any unmixed

> demos from Pandemonium era?

>

>

>   I wonder if anyone actually owns a full wav from the original source, I

> mean it was never released on cd anywhere was it?  Certainly not on the

> Alchemy and War Dance CD collectives.

>     ----- Original Message -----

>     From: death watch

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>     Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:04 PM

>     Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any

> unmixeddemos from Pandemonium era?

>

>

>     I got all excited by that torrent and then on closer inspection

> realized the version of Mathematics... is an mp3. If anyone has a full

> .wav of the original Mathematics, I would love that - they indeed

> missed a huge opportunity not including the original mixes on the

> reissue. Maybe we'll yet see some sort of "Inside Pandemonium" set.

>

>     T.

>

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>     From: npscott at blueyonder.co.uk

>     To: gathering at misera.net

>     Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:51:08 +0100

>     Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any unmixed

> demos from Pandemonium era?

>

>

>     This had put me in geek mode, and I have tracked down a torrent that

> has collectively, including Mathematics Of Chaos original mix, all the

> Pandemonium Era Mixes.

>

>     After hearing how much better the original Millennium is, and knowing

> how much better the Pandemonium original mix is, I wished they would

> ahve put the originals on the remaster.

>

>     Strange as well how in the US on the original pressing of Pandemonium

> Album it didnt have the Cybersank mix of Pandemonium on it unlike the

> UK version, and the CD Single of Millennium had the original Mix on it

> whereas we were denied it in the UK.

>

>     Speaking of Cybersank, does anyone know anything about the

> remixers?....nothing crops up on Wiki, all I know is they did

> Pandemonium, Millennium and swedish rockers Clawfinger's "Warfair"

> remixes.

>

>     Torrent linky

> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4372734/Killing_Joke_-_Pandemonium_Album_Remixes_FLAC

>       ----- Original Message -----

>       From: Rob's Arse

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>       Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:44 AM

>       Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone ownany

> unmiceddemosfromPandemonium era?

>

>

>       Neil

>

>       I'll have a look if I still have it.

>       Welcome back by the way - see you next week!

>

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>       From: "Neil Perry" <65snoopy at gmail.com>

>       To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

>       Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any

> unmiceddemosfromPandemonium era?

>       Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:34:57 +0200

>

>

>       Hey Bob, yes, my mistake, it says Zoo on it so I have the US edition

> then.

>       Who'd have thunk it.

>

>       Now I have to find that original mix of Mathematics that I have

> somewhere.

>

>       OK enough nerdiness

>       N

>

>

>       2008/9/25 Bob Barathy <bbarathy at btinternet.com>

>

>         Hi Neil. Check your CD again. If the CD is blue and the liner says

> Zoo on it anywhere then it's the US  version; which featured the

> original Aotearoa mix on it (and the UK CD did not). I've never

> heard of a limited UK CD with Aotearoa on it but if I'm wrong

> please let me know!

>

>         boBToo

>         www.killingjoke.co.uk

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>           From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Termite

>           Sent: 24 September 2008 22:51

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>           Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any

> unmiceddemosfromPandemonium era?

>

>

>           Just looking at my UK CD original of the Millennium single cat

> no. BFLD12 and it doesnt have the Aotearoa Mix of it on

> there?!?!

>

>           1) Millennium (Cyersank Edit)

>           2) Millennium (Back To Orion Mix)

>           3) Millennium (Cyersank Extended) * Same version as on the Album

>           4) Millennium (23 Minutes To Midnight Mix)

>           5) Millennium (Dissolving Particle Reaction Mix)

>

>           So does this mean that there was a limited edition CD single

> with the Aotearoa Mix on it?

>             ----- Original Message -----

>             From: Neil Perry

>             To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>             Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:26 PM

>             Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own any

> unmiceddemosfrom Pandemonium era?

>

>

>             Just looking at my (UK) copy of the CD single - it has six

> versions of Millennium

>             on it and a version of Exorcism. The first track, the

> 'Aotearoa Mix', is the original

>             version of Millennium that was on the Pandemonium promos

> before they went

>             and replaced it with an inferior version. Honest, guv.

>

>             Neil

>

>

>

>             2008/9/24 Termite <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>

>

>               Certainly in the UK nope, The Millennium CD Single has the

> Cybersank Radio Edit and the full length Cybersank mix

> (which also appears on the album) but even the remastered

> album contains the full length Cybersank mix.

>

>               Has anyone got the original from the promo to kindly upload

> to rapidshare or anything?

>                 ----- Original Message -----

>                 From: Neil Perry

>                 To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>                 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:29 PM

>                 Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry - Anyone own

> any unmiced demosfrom Pandemonium era?

>

>

>                 The 'original' version of Millennium is on the CD single -

> is that the one

>                 you meant? It was on the first promos of Pandemonium

> before they

>                 went and changed it and put the cyber versions on instead.

>

>                 N in N

>

>

>                 2008/9/24 Termite <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>

>

>                   Thanks for that, shame isn't it?  Would be really

> interesting hearing that tune in its original mix.  Same

> with Millennium, although Pandamonium has been released

> as an original version, as well as with the cheese rock

> overstabbings of the Cybersank mix, Millennium as far as

> I am aware has never been released without the Cybersank

> mixes.

>

>                   Anyone close to the band that has obtained unmixed

> versions of Millennium, Four Stations Of The Sun and

> Another Cult Goes Down?

>                     ----- Original Message -----

>                     From: Javier Garcia

>                     To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>                     Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:36 PM

>                     Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry

>

>

>                     As far as i remember and as weird as it may sound

> there's no other version than that "Portobello mix",

> it's on the Pandemonium remaster and i have it on the

> Exorcism single on vinyl too.

>

>                     Javier

>                     mexcity

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>                       Date : Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:45:15 +0100

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>                       From : "Terrnite" <npscott at blueyonder.co.uk>

>

>                       To : "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the

> band!\)" <gathering at misera.net>

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>

>                       I don't think it appears on the Pandemonium single,

> certainly not in the UK, only on the Exorcism 10" &

> CD, unless you mistakingly mean it also features on

> the Pandemonium album (remaster) . :-)

>

>

>

>                       My question, however, refers to whether anyone knows

> if Another Cult Goes Down has ever appeared or

> leaked in a none remixed format. Certainly on both

> the Exorcism single and Pandemonium Album remaster

> it is the Portobello Mix.

>

>

>

>                       If my memory serves me correctly I am sure there was

> a demo leak of Four Stations Of The Sun which wasn't

> a remix, so really I just want to know if anyone

> either has a leak or at least knows if Another Cult

> Goes Down exists out there other than in the bands

> archived master tapes unabridged. I would be

> interested hearing it as a demo.

>

>

>

>                       As it states Portobello mix by the way, does anyone

> know who actually was behind doing the remix, I

> presume Youth? It does sound very dub.

>

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>                       From: J Casavola

>

>                       To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>

>                       Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 3:39 AM

>

>                       Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry

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>

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>

>                       Another Cult Goes down also appears on the

> Pandemonium Single as well.

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>                       From: npscott at blueyonder.co.uk

>

>                       To: gathering at misera.net

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>                       Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:15:51 +0100

>

>                       Subject: Re: [kj] non-album tracks enquiry

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>

>

>

>                       Speaking of Another Cult Goes Down (I have always

> loved that track), do you, or anyone else know

> whether it has ever been leaked anywhere as a demo

> or in a none remixed format??? (not the Portobello

> mix)

>

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>                       From: Phillipps Marc

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> things Killing Joke (the band!)

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>                       Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:15 PM

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>                       >Another Cult Goes Down

>

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>                       >Four Stations of the Sun

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>                       >Drug

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>                       >Hollywood Babylon

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>                       >Mass

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>                       These all date from the Pandemonium/Democracy era,

> line up would be Jaz/Geordie/Youth and "drummer"

> (probably Dugmore)

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>                       ACGD was on the Exorcism EP, FSOTS was only released

> in a remixed form (can't remember what single it

> turned up with off the top of my head though), Drug

> turned up on the soundtrack for Mortal Combat 2,

> Hollywood Babylon was on the soundtrack for

> Showgirls and Mass the B Side to Democracy

>

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>                       >Cheers!

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>                       This wasn't a KJ track; it was a comedy series about

> a bar in Boston

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>                       Marc.

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