[kj] OT - Throwing a Bone to the Exorcist

Alexander Smith vassifer at earthlink.net
Sun Sep 7 18:06:20 EDT 2008



Here ya go....

http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2008/09/where-does-she-find-the-time.html


Vote Killing Joke!

Alex in NYC


On Sep 7, 2008, at 5:43 PM, The Exorcist wrote:


> But... What does that have anything to do with blatant lies written

> about her?

>

> If you want to attack something she said or did, fine. But to pull

> shit out of thin

> air and claim it as fact is acceptable?

>

> Let's see... Alex writes on his blog...

> "This was just passed onto me by one of the good folks over at The

> Gathering.

> I don't vouch for its legitimacy, but it certainly fits the profile.

> Shrill conservative

> harpee Michelle Malkin says it's not true, but she's not exactly a

> bastion of free

> thinking herself. See what ya think. "

>

> First off it's not only Michelle that has debunked it. Second Alex

> KNOWS it's not true but writes

> "I don't vouch for its legitimacy" and tries to give it some sort of

> Pseudo credence even though

> it's a blatant outright lie.

>

> I'm deeply disappointed.

>

> It seems as long as you don't like someone you can say anything you

> damn well want and it's acceptable.

> *shrug* So much for integrity...

>

> And Alex, that lovely moveon.org counter. A blatant rip off of the

> counter about Obama not going to Iraq.

> But seeing that Obama has avoided any tough interviews and only went

> to hosts and "journalists" that

> kiss his ass I really wouldn't be so gung-ho about that. Not to

> mention that he's scared shitless of doing

> townhall style debates with McCain. Really is that something you

> want to bring up?

>

> Cheers,

> Me

>

>

>

>

> At 05:14 PM 9/7/2008, ade wrote:

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>> That first line made my head spin!

>>

>> Anyways, personally that footage of her going on about g0ds work in

>> Iraq is guaranteed to make me repel from her - she's like one of

>> those fucking lizards in V ! Now she's onboard, I find the whole

>> idea of a republican government much more scary than just McStain -

>> seriously, she seems the sort of nutfuck that would start shit off.

>> Her inclusion really makes Obummer a much more attractive canditate

>> to *my* eyes. So my own trashing of her is borne of fear, not agenda!

>>

>> I have an image in my mind of Obummer reaching into his hair &

>> unzipping his disguise only for Satan to step out of it, hooves and

>> all. "Fooled ya!"

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

>> ]On Behalf Of The Exorcist

>> Sent: 07 September 2008 21:38

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted banned

>>

>> Possibly I did. Could be that I read something into your E-mail

>> while you read into

>> my email which was read into by Alex... Boy am I getting dizzy!

>>

>> And I didn't call you one sided, I was referring to the Palin

>> trashing on the list (and the media) which was one sided.

>>

>>

>>

>> At 03:58 PM 9/7/2008, ade wrote:

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>>> You're not getting it mate - I wasn't being one-sided at all.

>>> You're reading something into my mails.

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>> ]On Behalf Of The Exorcist

>>> Sent: 07 September 2008 20:14

>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted banned

>>>

>>> Then let it stand at that. Not just be one sided. :)

>>> Cheers,

>>> Me

>>> At 02:55 PM 9/7/2008, ade wrote:

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>>>>

>>>> The point is that they're as bad as each other mate.

>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>> ]On Behalf Of Alexander Smith

>>>> Sent: 07 September 2008 17:15

>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted banned

>>>>

>>>> " I find it sad that the people who claim to be "liberal" would

>>>> go and shut down and shout down anyone who doesn't agree with

>>>> them."

>>>> What exactly do you think the Right/Conservative/Republicans are

>>>> doing? Sitting quietly with the fingers entwined?

>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>> On Sep 7, 2008, at 8:28 AM, ade wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> > Though in all honesty... I think it goes beyond republican/

>>>>> democrat left/right. I was always pro free speech &

>>>>> transparency. I find it sad that the people who claim to be

>>>>> "liberal" would go and shut down and shout down anyone who

>>>>> doesn't agree with them.

>>>>> Spot-on. This is the truth of free speech - the chosen 'enemy'

>>>>> should have as much right to spout their utterances as the

>>>>> chosen 'heroes'.

>>>>>

>>>>> Sadly, this is how Hitler got in.

>>>>>

>>>>> Back when the Greeks began voting, at the dawn of democracy

>>>>> (lol), did they not vote for war time & time again?

>>>>>

>>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>>> ]On Behalf Of The Exorcist

>>>>> Sent: 07 September 2008 00:26

>>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted banned

>>>>>

>>>>> I guess some things can't be explained ehhh? LOL (Also a big

>>>>> SWANS fan amongst many many other bands.

>>>>> Music and books are my life. I guess I just enjoy and can

>>>>> understand and relate to free expression in its many

>>>>> various forms.)

>>>>> Though in all honesty... I think it goes beyond republican/

>>>>> democrat left/right.

>>>>> I was always pro free speech & transparency. I find it sad that

>>>>> the people who claim to be "liberal" would

>>>>> go and shut down and shout down anyone who doesn't agree with

>>>>> them.

>>>>> (How many times have you seen a right wing or conservative

>>>>> speaker being shouted down by lefties when invited

>>>>> to speak at a University?) When people feel the need to disrupt

>>>>> someone's speech (Code Pink at the RNC?).

>>>>> I understand that people are different and I respect it. I don't

>>>>> force my views on anyone and am more than willing

>>>>> to agree to disagree. More importantly, I will always fight and

>>>>> support free Speech no matter to whom it applies!

>>>>> Cheers,

>>>>> Me

>>>>> Have a great weekend and hope the rain is gone by tomorrow.

>>>>> At 07:02 PM 9/6/2008, Alexander Smith wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> It always amazes me how Yos the Exorcist can be such a die-hard

>>>>>> Republican and a die-hard Killing Joke fan at the same time. To

>>>>>> my mind, they cancel each other out -- but then, I'm a proudly

>>>>>> liberal lefty and still a Kiss fan, so I guess it's the same

>>>>>> contradiction.

>>>>>> Alex in NYC

>>>>>>

>>>>>> On Sep 6, 2008, at 6:52 PM, The Exorcist wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Yeah, just like saying that it wasn't her child but her

>>>>>>> daughters. Truth doesn't matter. All you

>>>>>>> have to do is talk shit and make enough of a ruckus that

>>>>>>> people believe it.

>>>>>>> Speaking on the banning of things and restriction of free

>>>>>>> speech let's look at Sir Obama's record.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12816.html

>>>>>>> Sen. Barack Obama has launched an all-out effort to block a

>>>>>>> Republican billionaire’s efforts to tie him

>>>>>>> to domestic and foreign terrorists in a wave of negative

>>>>>>> television ads.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Obama’s campaign has written the Department of Justice

>>>>>>> demanding a criminal investigation of the “American Issues

>>>>>>> Project,”

>>>>>>> the vehicle through which Dallas investor Harold Simmons is

>>>>>>> financing the advertisements. The Obama campaign and tens

>>>>>>> of thousands of supporters also is pressuring television

>>>>>>> networks and affiliates to reject the ads.

>>>>>>> OR... http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/08/obama_campaign_confronts_wgn_r.html

>>>>>>> (the above link is just a small snippet... there are much more

>>>>>>> detailed ones out there)

>>>>>>> The fact that Obama tried to have Stanley Kurtz thrown off the

>>>>>>> air for talking about the "Chicago Annenberg Challenge".

>>>>>>> "The magazine had been blocked in its initial attempts to

>>>>>>> obtain records from the University of Illinois at Chicago

>>>>>>> regarding

>>>>>>> a school reform initiative called the Chicago Annenberg

>>>>>>> Challenge, which Obama chaired and Ayers co-founded.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Obama critics were quick to suggest that political clout could

>>>>>>> be involved in seeking to protect Obama from embarrassment.

>>>>>>> The school later reserved its position and made the records

>>>>>>> available Tuesday."

>>>>>>> So first they have the University block access to the files.

>>>>>>> Then they threaten, flood and go after the radio station that

>>>>>>> will give Stanley

>>>>>>> a stage to talk at. BRAVO!!! Way to go!

>>>>>>> At least the Radio station offered the Obama campaign to come

>>>>>>> on the show to discuss/refute what Stanley says (The Obama

>>>>>>> campaign declined.

>>>>>>> The ones throwing shit at Palin don't provide that

>>>>>>> opportunity. While Stanley Kurtz and the Ad campaign (correct

>>>>>>> or incorrect)

>>>>>>> stated info based on Obama's past associations the shit thrown

>>>>>>> at Palin is pulled out of thin air.

>>>>>>> Funny thing is, Palin isn't running to the DOJ or sending out

>>>>>>> mass Emails telling people to wreak havoc.

>>>>>>> Sincerely,

>>>>>>> Me

>>>>>>> At 05:12 PM 9/6/2008, fluke fluke wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I dont see how you can judge a person on the basis of when

>>>>>>>> they first got their passport .

>>>>>>>> Also she didn't ban any books whilst she was Mayor she

>>>>>>>> just ............

>>>>>>>> "Palin herself, questioned at the time, called her inquiries

>>>>>>>> rhetorical and simply part of a policy discussion with a

>>>>>>>> department head "about understanding and following

>>>>>>>> administration agendas," according to the Frontiersman

>>>>>>>> article."

>>>>>>>> I abhor these Left Wing smear campaigns, they are

>>>>>>>> dishonest , deceitful and they distort the democratic process .

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> > From: vassifer at earthlink.net

>>>>>>>> > To: gathering at misera.net

>>>>>>>> > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 16:57:34 -0400

>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted

>>>>>>>> banned

>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>> > Like I said, it certainly fits her profile, though I'd be

>>>>>>>> damn

>>>>>>>> > surprised if she's even HEART of HALF of these books (woman

>>>>>>>> didn't get

>>>>>>>> > her first passport until 2007, for cryin' out loud).

>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>> > More to the point though: Regardless of title, the banning

>>>>>>>> of ANY book

>>>>>>>> > is completely fucked up.

>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>> > May she rot.

>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>> > Alex in NYC

>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>> > On Sep 6, 2008, at 4:22 PM, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>> > > Wow, I know she had some deal with the library, and I

>>>>>>>> hate this

>>>>>>>> > > evil, hypocritical version of Tina Fey, but is that list

>>>>>>>> accurate. I

>>>>>>>> > > mean, LYSISTRATA? Banned?

>>>>>>>> > >

>>>>>>>> > > Part of me wouldn't doubt it -- but part of me insists on a

>>>>>>>> > > snopes.com check.

>>>>>>>> > >

>>>>>>>> > > -Oliver

>>>>>>>> > >

>>>>>>>> > > LONESTYLE at aol.com wrote:

>>>>>>>> > >> Check this one out...

>>>>>>>> > >> ~LB

>>>>>>>> > >>

>>>>>>>> > >

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>> Competition is a barbaric, insensitive ritual that reeks of social

>> Darwinism.

>> We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your loss is

>> someone

>> else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore,

>> losers contribute

>> to the society and winners take away from it. Being a winner is

>> unethical, while

>> a society of losers is happy and striving as a collective. In the

>> spirit of diversity,

>> inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no winners.

>> Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an ethical

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> Competition is a barbaric, insensitive ritual that reeks of social

> Darwinism.

> We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your loss is

> someone

> else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore, losers

> contribute

> to the society and winners take away from it. Being a winner is

> unethical, while

> a society of losers is happy and striving as a collective. In the

> spirit of diversity,

> inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no winners.

> Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an ethical

> team player.

>

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