[kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted banned

[Alexander Smith]

That wasn't the statement. The statement was aimed at "people who  
claim to be 'liberal'..," hence my retort.

Alex in NYC


On Sep 7, 2008, at 2:55 PM, ade wrote:


> The point is that they're as bad as each other mate.

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> ]On Behalf Of Alexander Smith

> Sent: 07 September 2008 17:15

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted banned

>

>

> " I find it sad that the people who claim to be "liberal" would go  

> and shut down and shout down anyone who doesn't agree with them."

>

> What exactly do you think the Right/Conservative/Republicans are  

> doing? Sitting quietly with the fingers entwined?

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

> On Sep 7, 2008, at 8:28 AM, ade wrote:

>

>> >Though in all honesty... I think it goes beyond republican/ 

>> democrat left/right. I was always pro free speech & transparency. I  

>> find it sad that the people who claim to be "liberal" would go and  

>> shut down and shout down anyone who     doesn't agree with them.

>>

>> Spot-on. This is the truth of free speech - the chosen 'enemy'  

>> should have as much right to spout their utterances as the chosen  

>> 'heroes'.

>>

>> Sadly, this is how Hitler got in.

>>

>> Back when the Greeks began voting, at the dawn of democracy (lol),  

>> did they not vote for war time & time again?

>>

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

>> ]On Behalf Of The Exorcist

>> Sent: 07 September 2008 00:26

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted banned

>>

>> I guess some things can't be explained ehhh? LOL (Also a big SWANS  

>> fan amongst many many other bands.

>> Music and books are my life. I guess I just enjoy and can  

>> understand and relate to free expression in its many

>> various forms.)

>>

>> Though in all honesty... I think it goes beyond republican/democrat  

>> left/right.

>>

>> I was always pro free speech & transparency. I find it sad that the  

>> people who claim to be "liberal" would

>> go and shut down and shout down anyone who doesn't agree with them.

>>

>> (How many times have you seen a right wing or conservative speaker  

>> being shouted down by lefties when invited

>> to speak at a University?) When people feel the need to disrupt  

>> someone's speech (Code Pink at the RNC?).

>>

>> I understand that people are different and I respect it. I don't  

>> force my views on anyone and am more than willing

>> to agree to disagree. More importantly, I will always fight and  

>> support free Speech no matter to whom it applies!

>>

>> Cheers,

>> Me

>>

>> Have a great weekend and hope the rain is gone by tomorrow.

>>

>>

>> At 07:02 PM 9/6/2008, Alexander Smith wrote:

>>> It always amazes me how Yos the Exorcist can be such a die-hard  

>>> Republican and a die-hard Killing Joke fan at the same time. To my  

>>> mind, they cancel each other out -- but then, I'm a proudly  

>>> liberal lefty and still a Kiss fan, so I guess it's the same  

>>> contradiction.

>>>

>>> Alex in NYC

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> On Sep 6, 2008, at 6:52 PM, The Exorcist wrote:

>>>

>>>> Yeah, just like saying that it wasn't her child but her  

>>>> daughters. Truth doesn't matter. All you

>>>> have to do is talk shit and make enough of a ruckus that people  

>>>> believe it.

>>>>

>>>> Speaking on the banning of things and restriction of free speech  

>>>> let's look at Sir Obama's record.

>>>>

>>>> http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12816.html

>>>> Sen. Barack Obama has launched an all-out effort to block a  

>>>> Republican billionaire’s efforts to tie him

>>>> to domestic and foreign terrorists in a wave of negative  

>>>> television ads.

>>>>

>>>> Obama’s campaign has written the Department of Justice demanding  

>>>> a criminal investigation of the “American Issues Project,”

>>>> the vehicle through which Dallas investor Harold Simmons is  

>>>> financing the advertisements. The Obama campaign — and tens

>>>> of thousands of supporters — also is pressuring television  

>>>> networks and affiliates to reject the ads.

>>>>

>>>> OR...  http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/08/obama_campaign_confronts_wgn_r.html

>>>> (the above link is just a small snippet... there are much more  

>>>> detailed ones out there)

>>>>

>>>> The fact that Obama tried to have Stanley Kurtz thrown off the  

>>>> air for talking about the "Chicago Annenberg Challenge".

>>>>

>>>> "The magazine had been blocked in its initial attempts to obtain  

>>>> records from the University of Illinois at Chicago regarding

>>>> a school reform initiative called the Chicago Annenberg  

>>>> Challenge, which Obama chaired and Ayers co-founded.

>>>>

>>>> Obama critics were quick to suggest that political clout could be  

>>>> involved in seeking to protect Obama from embarrassment.

>>>> The school later reserved its position and made the records  

>>>> available Tuesday."

>>>>

>>>> So first they have the University block access to the files. Then  

>>>> they threaten, flood and go after the radio station that will  

>>>> give Stanley

>>>> a stage to talk at. BRAVO!!! Way to go!

>>>>

>>>> At least the Radio station offered the Obama campaign to come on  

>>>> the show to discuss/refute what Stanley says (The Obama

>>>> campaign declined.

>>>>

>>>> The ones throwing shit at Palin don't provide that opportunity.  

>>>> While Stanley Kurtz and the Ad campaign (correct or incorrect)

>>>> stated info based on Obama's past associations the shit thrown at  

>>>> Palin is pulled out of thin air.

>>>>

>>>> Funny thing is, Palin isn't running to the DOJ or sending out  

>>>> mass Emails telling people to wreak havoc.

>>>>

>>>> Sincerely,

>>>> Me

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> At 05:12 PM 9/6/2008, fluke fluke wrote:

>>>>> I dont see how you can judge a person  on the basis of when they  

>>>>> first got their passport .

>>>>> Also she didn't ban any books  whilst she was Mayor she  

>>>>> just ............

>>>>>

>>>>> "Palin herself, questioned at the time, called her inquiries  

>>>>> rhetorical and simply part of a policy discussion with a  

>>>>> department head "about understanding and following  

>>>>> administration agendas," according to the Frontiersman article."

>>>>>

>>>>>    I abhor these Left Wing smear campaigns, they are dishonest ,  

>>>>> deceitful and they distort the             democratic process .

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> > From: vassifer at earthlink.net

>>>>> > To: gathering at misera.net

>>>>> > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 16:57:34 -0400

>>>>> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT - List of books Sarah Palin wanted banned

>>>>> >

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Like I said, it certainly fits her profile, though I'd be damn

>>>>> > surprised if she's even HEART of HALF of these books (woman  

>>>>> didn't get

>>>>> > her first passport until 2007, for cryin' out loud).

>>>>> >

>>>>> > More to the point though: Regardless of title, the banning of  

>>>>> ANY book

>>>>> > is completely fucked up.

>>>>> >

>>>>> > May she rot.

>>>>> >

>>>>> > Alex in NYC

>>>>> >

>>>>> >

>>>>> >

>>>>> > On Sep 6, 2008, at 4:22 PM, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

>>>>> >

>>>>> > > Wow, I know she had some deal with the library, and I hate  

>>>>> this

>>>>> > > evil, hypocritical version of Tina Fey, but is that list  

>>>>> accurate. I

>>>>> > > mean, LYSISTRATA? Banned?

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > > Part of me wouldn't doubt it -- but part of me insists on a

>>>>> > > snopes.com check.

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > > -Oliver

>>>>> > >

>>>>> > > LONESTYLE at aol.com wrote:

>>>>> > >> Check this one out...

>>>>> > >> ~LB

>>>>> > >>

>>>>> > >

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