[kj] OT: Competition?

[Brendan]

Whatever happened to taoism in China? They are living the exact opposite
of it...striving so hard to progress they are choking themselves and their
environment to death.


>

> "Many people, or example, quote Sun Tzu for life philosophy-type mantras

> that have nothing to do with their being a general on a battlefield."

>

> The Art of War is a Taoist text, and there is no one Sun Tzu, as there is

> no one Lao Tzu;  by the very title of the book the work it is preparing

> the reader to realize this transcends any specificity, as does Taoism

> itself.  Remember, 32 spokes without a center?  Thus the famous directives

> about fighting 100 wars is so famous due to its broad ability to address

> certain problems that all flesh is err to.

>  Nietzche is a completely different case.  We have historical data on him.

>  Rollo May's psychological portrait of him, and of his relationship with

> Lou Salome is very insightful.  His tribe has been quite interesting to

> speak with......

>

>

>

> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:52:47 -0400From:

> killingjoke at theimmortalfool.comTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj]

> OT: Competition?Then he must've been a "Joker/Gatherer" at heart. There

> just wasn't a proper terminology for that at his time. :)At 06:04 AM

> 10/22/2008, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

> But jut 'cuz he says it's a saying from the militay school doesn't mean he

> also doesn't think it shouldn't be applied generally. Many people, or

> example, quote Sun Tzu for life philosophy-type mantras that have nothing

> to do with their being a general on a battlefield. Also, Carl Von

> Clausewitz wrote, "from the military school," the famous saying, "War is

> politics conducted by other means." (from his _Principals of War_)But it's

> debates like this, about what he REALLY meant, that make Nietzsche who he

> is -- someone people still try to uncover what he REALLY meant by such and

> such. Unlike philosophers like Bertrand Russell, who wrote in such

> transparent, unambiguous language that they just stated, explicirtly, what

> they really meant.Argue me, dammit, argue me!!!  :)  Neitzsche would love

> people doing that over his stuff-OliverBrendan wrote:

> Nietzsche's quote, from memory, is prefixed with: "From the military

> school:"So it's not meant to be a truism about life. And yeah, I agree,

> he'shugely contradictory at times, annoyingly so for someone who wrote so

> wellat his best.

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