[kj] OT: Competition?

[Brendan]

I'm ethically opposed to arguing points for the sake of it, I can play
Devil's Advocate where I see another valid point of view, but I really
don't like arguing for the sake of it if I just can't get behind the point
I'm arguing :). I suppose arguing contradictory points of view is a way to
expand your consciousness, but I'll leave that to the shrooms like all
good hippies should ;p

You're right in that just because he prefixes that quote with "From the
military school" doesn't mean he's not extrapolating it to life in
general. I was kinda thinking that myself as I explained it earlier.
However it's still my take that he didn't mean it was universally
applicable. It's onl applicable in some instances for starters, anyone
with any grounding in logic can see that. There's plenty that doesn't kill
you that leaves you weaker, militarily or not. I knew that when I was
reading Commando comics and playing with plastic armies. The fuckers are
useless when they are melted!

How's this:

Form the military school: attack to wound, not kill, if wounding will have
more effect on your enemy than killing...(i.e. make them WEAKER by
affecting more of their resources)

Or this:

"Anyone who's not a philosopher is an asshole"

- Jaz Coleman



> But jut 'cuz he says it's a saying from the militay school doesn't mean

> he also doesn't think it shouldn't be applied generally. Many people, or

> example, quote Sun Tzu for life philosophy-type mantras that have

> nothing to do with their being a general on a battlefield. Also, Carl

> Von Clausewitz wrote, "from the military school," the famous saying,

> "War is politics conducted by other means." (from his _Principals of War_)

>

> But it's debates like this, about what he REALLY meant, that make

> Nietzsche who he is -- someone people still try to uncover what he

> REALLY meant by such and such. Unlike philosophers like Bertrand

> Russell, who wrote in such transparent, unambiguous language that they

> just stated, explicirtly, what they really meant.

>

> Argue me, dammit, argue me!!!  :)  Neitzsche would love people doing

> that over his stuff

>

> -Oliver

>

> Brendan wrote:

>> Nietzsche's quote, from memory, is prefixed with: "From the military

>> school:"

>>

>> So it's not meant to be a truism about life. And yeah, I agree, he's

>> hugely contradictory at times, annoyingly so for someone who wrote so

>> well

>> at his best.

>>

>>

>

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