[kj] Timewave, November Novelty

Bette Dillinger bettedillinger at live.com
Tue Oct 21 18:26:25 EDT 2008



Excellent response, man!
Competition is everywhere.....thus, there is less of a need for instruction on it, especially in the
schools of the US. Cooperation is not a horrific word, helping others is not some diabolical plot to make others "soft" or "ineffectual". I know morality cannot be taught, but basic understanding of others is what early schooling *should* be about.
What, do you want "Toddler Survivor"? ;) Anyone cranking up the Beethoven? I see little Alex walking this way. He wants to be king of the hill, and he has a crazy mommy and daddy. But lets toughen him up more for the "working world".

BTW, I would read the life story of Mr Carlin before quoting him. Could his anger be at himself? Nah, he espoused a murky hybrid of Social Darwinism, so he's kewl, eh?

Bette




From: bbarathy at btinternet.comTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:12:03 +0100Subject: Re: [kj] Timewave, November Novelty

My 10 year old daughters school has no losers.
Everyones a winner!
Bollocks I tell her. You go out there and beat their arses.
Comin' second=first loser.
Don't you come home unless you win at everything and don't want to hear no excuses! :)

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-----Original Message-----From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of The ExorcistSent: 21 October 2008 17:48To: joker at Z6.com; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] Timewave, November NoveltyTo the Esteemed Mr. Arse:You're still a saint compared to my dad!It sorta scares the shit out of me how all these schools and educatorsare trying to eliminate competitive sports and even go the extremes ofbanning tag, and LEGO... yes even LEGO.George Carlin (rip), on his last HBO stand up went on about this."Grade school, where he won't be allowed to play tag because it promotes victimization... Standing around is still permitted, but it won't be for long. because sooner or later some kid is gonna be standing around, and his foot will fall asleep, and his parents will sue the school, and it's fucking good-bye fucking standing around." -George Carlin"You know what they tell the kid who lost these days? 'You were the last winner.' A lot of kinds never get to hear the truth about themselves until they're in their twenties, when their boss calls them in and says, Bobby, clean the shit out of your desk and get the fuck out of here, you're a loser."-George CarlinYosAt 12:24 PM 10/21/2008, Rob's Arse wrote:
So, if we all lose, we will all be winners in the end? Because we'll all be happy and catered for and that, to me sounds like winning.So if we're all winners by losing we all become takers by default.Can you see where this is going??On my desk is a badge my son made for me when he was 5. It says "you are a winner".What he's actually saying is "you're a loser Dad".That's his pocket money stopped then........!www.iamscuzzy.com www.myspace.com/scuzzywear--- killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com wrote:From: The Exorcist <killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>Subject: Re: [kj] Timewave, November NoveltyDate: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:11:59 -0400Use Shitake! :)At 06:10 AM 10/21/2008, Brendan wrote:

Anyway, if something else big does happen in Nov then I'm gonna stop
reading the financial papers and start taking shrooms. Probably a good
life plan regardless ;)

> interesting stuff happens all the time!

> i think the idea is mainly bollox, not enough black and white data to make

> it failsafe for me - and i believe all sorts of crazy shit!Competition is a barbaric, insensitive ritual that reeks of social Darwinism.We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your loss is someoneelse's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore, losers contributeto the society and winners take away from it. Being a winner is unethical, whilea society of losers is happy and striving as a collective. In the spirit of diversity,inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no winners.Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an ethical team player.

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