[kj] ot- palin vote

[Karen Weil]

James:

I like your thoughtful response. And, essentially, you're spot-on in the general sense.  However, I don't agree with your synopsis of Obama being "the same evil." 
While I don't consider him a magic man, I do believe he offers reasonable, concrete and relatively progressive solutions to some problems (not all, mind you -- some.)
And I don't think he's a carbon copy of Bill Clinton at all. 
Until enough Americans wake up and realize how much they could benefit from a multi-party system, we'll continue to have the same type of government. We can blame "the politicians" all we want. At the end of the day, "the people" share a hell of a lot of the blame, too.

Cheers,

k.w.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: James Osborne 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 12:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] ot- palin vote


  I think as long as people continue to support the two party system from within, there will be no change. That's the deception of history in primary education in the United States.

  The anit-slavery movement, women's right to vote movement, civil rights movement, labour rights...all were from outside of the two party system. Remember, the only reason Gore got as many votes as he did in 2000 was because his campaign adapted a lot of their platforms to meet demands from those who were supporting the Greens.

  I refuse to support either party. Never, save for progressives like Dennis Kucinich.

  If Obama is elected, the war will still go on, an invasion of Iran is probable, the welfare state will continue to be depleted, the expansion of the military will continue, corporate welfare will continue, the hopes for socialized healthcare will continue to fade away, tax payer money funding authoritarian regimes such as Israel will continue, etc.,

  I just don't see the point of giving support to Obama with this in mind. He's not a lesser of the two evils, he is the same evil. He is going to be as deceptive as the biggest deregulator and fiscal conservative of my generation, Bill Clinton.


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