[kj] They didn't play this in London/ littleangryhoney beeguitar

fluw fluwdot at earthlink.net
Mon Oct 6 15:23:30 EDT 2008


Ok ade I’ll take your honorable word.



But the burman is still up for offer to sir walker



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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of ade
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:08 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] They didn't play this in London/ littleangryhoney
beeguitar



Todd, I think the tone is great at the moment, but it's very much a
Revelations-era sound, which by

me is fine. I'd also like to hear the BTATS/Extremities sounds again - some
of those BTATS song really

come alive, erm, played live.



He seems to be using wahwah again too, to great effect.

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
Behalf Of fluw
Sent: 06 October 2008 19:45
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] They didn't play this in London/ littleangryhoney
beeguitar

Yeah not being able to hear Geordie in certain areas of a venue is a symptom
of crap tone. If the tone is good, and a decent amp like the Burman is being
used, one can be heard everywhere regardless of the mix from soundpeople.
Two stacks of amps over a hundred watts should have no difficulty
establishing decibel authority!



High fidelity and full frequency range to help clearity in the amp is
lacking obviously.



And as you mentioned a Burman does that and did offer Geordie that sound for
8-10 years and 6 albums. Sadly that sound was his best and it hasn’t
returned.



I have a Burman 4000 pro amp with fresh old stock gold lion kt77 valves, and
the offer still stands for Geordie to use it! ;]

I could bring it down on the train to the city with me for the weekend haha.





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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Matthew Tibbits
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:49 AM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] They didn't play this in London/ little angryhoney
beeguitar



I really think it depends where you are in the venue. I moved around a bit
and Geordie's guitar disappeared a bit on the balcony, reappeared higher up
but was probably best halfway back on the floor. In Brussels it was okay on
the floor but much stronger on the balcony. Go figure. They had three
engineers on it at the Forum. I do think his effects and maybe his current
gear probably hinder the clarity, especially in the higher registers, that
he had mid-80s to early-90s but, sadly, Mr Burman decided to call it a day a
while back. He sounds really good on the Duende sessions, though, it's live
where capturing his unique, devastating sound has become so elusive.


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From: fluwdot at earthlink.net
To: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 10:38:33 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] They didn't play this in London/ little angry honey
beeguitar

Well that is good to hear jim, I hope you evaluation is accurate and the
experience is the same for us in NYC




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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Jim Harper
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 10:33 AM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] They didn't play this in London/ little angry honey
beeguitar




I'm sorry, but I really cannot agree with this- Geordie's sound on Saturday
night lacked nothing in volume or power, and his tone was far from anemic.
Has anyone else heard the version of Millenium on the Spanish CD? He's lost
the chuggy metal feel of the original, and replaced it with a sharper, more
abrasive (and frankly godlike) guitar sound that owes more to Night Time
than KJ2003 or Hosannas. His tone is much improved over the last time I saw
them (October 2003 in Bristol) and on Saturday's gig the band dripped power
and volume from every pore. Jaz's voice was sometimes lost in the mix and
his fumbled a few lyrics here and there, but not one of them sounded
anything like weak.



Jim.

--- On Mon, 6/10/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:

From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] They didn't play this in London/ little angry honey bee
guitar
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
<gathering at misera.net>
Date: Monday, 6 October, 2008, 3:12 PM

And something I thought I would never imagine uttering, that geordie’s sound
is the weakest link in this band currently. Given his tone is so anemic and
the volume & punch of his instrument has been completely emasculated, it is
essential that BPF and youth are back with a rejuvenated jaz.






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