[kj] They didn't play this in London/ littleangryhoney beeguitar

ade ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
Mon Oct 6 15:08:16 EDT 2008


Todd, I think the tone is great at the moment, but it's very much a Revelations-era sound, which by
me is fine. I'd also like to hear the BTATS/Extremities sounds again - some of those BTATS song really
come alive, erm, played live.

He seems to be using wahwah again too, to great effect.

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of fluw
Sent: 06 October 2008 19:45
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] They didn't play this in London/ littleangryhoney beeguitar



Yeah not being able to hear Geordie in certain areas of a venue is a symptom of crap tone. If the tone is good, and a decent amp like the Burman is being used, one can be heard everywhere regardless of the mix from soundpeople. Two stacks of amps over a hundred watts should have no difficulty establishing decibel authority!



High fidelity and full frequency range to help clearity in the amp is lacking obviously.



And as you mentioned a Burman does that and did offer Geordie that sound for 8-10 years and 6 albums. Sadly that sound was his best and it hasn't returned.



I have a Burman 4000 pro amp with fresh old stock gold lion kt77 valves, and the offer still stands for Geordie to use it! ;]

I could bring it down on the train to the city with me for the weekend haha.




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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Tibbits
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:49 AM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] They didn't play this in London/ little angryhoney beeguitar



I really think it depends where you are in the venue. I moved around a bit and Geordie's guitar disappeared a bit on the balcony, reappeared higher up but was probably best halfway back on the floor. In Brussels it was okay on the floor but much stronger on the balcony. Go figure. They had three engineers on it at the Forum. I do think his effects and maybe his current gear probably hinder the clarity, especially in the higher registers, that he had mid-80s to early-90s but, sadly, Mr Burman decided to call it a day a while back. He sounds really good on the Duende sessions, though, it's live where capturing his unique, devastating sound has become so elusive.


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From: fluwdot at earthlink.net
To: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 10:38:33 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] They didn't play this in London/ little angry honey beeguitar

Well that is good to hear jim, I hope you evaluation is accurate and the experience is the same for us in NYC




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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Jim Harper
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 10:33 AM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] They didn't play this in London/ little angry honey beeguitar




I'm sorry, but I really cannot agree with this- Geordie's sound on Saturday night lacked nothing in volume or power, and his tone was far from anemic. Has anyone else heard the version of Millenium on the Spanish CD? He's lost the chuggy metal feel of the original, and replaced it with a sharper, more abrasive (and frankly godlike) guitar sound that owes more to Night Time than KJ2003 or Hosannas. His tone is much improved over the last time I saw them (October 2003 in Bristol) and on Saturday's gig the band dripped power and volume from every pore. Jaz's voice was sometimes lost in the mix and his fumbled a few lyrics here and there, but not one of them sounded anything like weak.



Jim.

--- On Mon, 6/10/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:

From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] They didn't play this in London/ little angry honey bee guitar
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Monday, 6 October, 2008, 3:12 PM

And something I thought I would never imagine uttering, that geordie's sound is the weakest link in this band currently. Given his tone is so anemic and the volume & punch of his instrument has been completely emasculated, it is essential that BPF and youth are back with a rejuvenated jaz.






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