[kj] OT: New scientifical evidenc of Life on Mars

[Jim Harper]

Not wishing to sound arsey here, but I can't much reason *not* to believe that Mars has any different rules of physics. The bulk of our scientific knowledge is based solely on information gleaned on our planet. I think it would be unwise- not to mention somewhat unscientific- to assume that information can be used to accurately predict what conditions are like on other planets...

--- On Fri, 28/11/08, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: New scientifical evidenc of Life on Mars
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Friday, 28 November, 2008, 4:36 AM








I don’t think there’s any reason to believe that Mars has any different rules of physics than earth…not in terms of our knowledge of its elements (insofar as what we know about the elements, which is admittedly incomplete at the quantum level, but we do know broadly how they work at the macro level), and the energy forces that act on it (the electromagnetic radiation it’s subject to, the gravity it exerts and that is exerted upon it, and the nuclear forces that hold its atoms together…).
 
We can predict it’s trajectory through space with a high degree of accuracy within x thousands / millions of years, based on our understanding of the effects (not cause) of gravity…
 
And to me it seems logical to look for life on other planets based on looking for artificial structures, whether they look like human faces or not is irrelevant. I’m not defending the guy’s methods or findings at all, just saying that I think science is the best bet we have for finding evidence of life on mars, and I don’t think there’s much bias involved in using the scientific method as our main tool. Nor any reason to expect that the rules of physics are any different anywhere else in the universe…we just don’t have a proper grasp of them yet (understatement).
 
Science is a self-correcting mechanism for seeing the world as accurately as possible.
 




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1
Sent: Friday, 28 November 2008 06:08
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: New scientifical evidenc of Life on Mars
 


  It seems a little too much projection of ourselves into deep space.  I'm skeptical how 

a totally different paradigm from our own world here on earth can so neatly be explained 

so early on by only our own scientifical principles and experiences, and without even knowing 

more of Mars' possibly bizarrely different physics (and biology) rules and principles.

 

That said, i'm staying tuned for more.

 

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From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 12:47:58 AM
Subject: [kj] OT: New scientifical evidenc of Life on Mars

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/820/LIFE_ON_MARS___New_Scientific_Evidence/



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