[kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart

Karen Weil karen.weil at sddt.com
Wed Nov 5 16:03:13 EST 2008


Point taken, Brendan.
Have a good one.

k.w.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart



> Tone doesn't translate in email, which is why I sprinlke so many smileys

> around...I should have here cos I was being sardonic to some extent. In an

> earlier email tonight I was saying that I think he'll have a positive

> impact overall...but like Bongo and a few others, and Noam Chomsky who I

> quoted and agree with Oliver on, I don't see a fundamental change in the

> power structure coming. Hence not a huge change in the average person's

> lot.

>

> He's a successful american politician, so he HAS to be Christian, he HAS

> to sell out to the corporates, he HAS to use rhetoric.

>

> I'm totally stoked for you guys, and everyone, and I'm not raining on your

> parade, but I'm a reliast too. So sorry, I'll be as cynical as I see fit.

>

> And in terms of the financial storm that's still developing, I don't see

> any point in being 'positive' about it, it's gonna cause untold pain in my

> opinion and all the denial about it that's gone on for the last several

> years achieves nothing.

>

>> Wow, Brendan -- such *positive* thinking!

>> Look, I consider myself fully a realist, but -- with all due respect,

>> honestly -- spare me the cynicism.

>> Rhetoric aside, no one is expecting miracles from Obama or anyone else.

>> But,

>> sorry, I'll continue hoping for the best!

>>

>> Boy howdy,

>>

>> KW

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>> <gathering at misera.net>

>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:40 AM

>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart

>>

>>

>>> The economic dramas worldwide, which I think are only just beginning, if

>>> nothing else will provide Obama with a good excuse for not saving the

>>> world (oh, sorry, the US) within the first 8 hours of his tenure...and

>>> potentially 4 years down the track when he's looking for re-election (if

>>> he hasn't been assassinated)...

>>>

>>>> Not perhaps the most brillant speech, but I think it was more sobering

>>>> than

>>>> anything. Basically, he was saying, "We're gonna have a hard road to

>>>> hoe."

>>>> What the next four years will bring is anyone's guess, but let's all

>>>> hope

>>>> for the best.

>>>>

>>>> Cheers,

>>>>

>>>> k.w.

>>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>>> From: "Sarah's Putrefying Kunt" <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk>

>>>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>>>> <gathering at misera.net>

>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:37 AM

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON a nation falling apart

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Obama's acceptance speech was rather vacuous wasn't it?

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> --- On Wed, 5/11/08, fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>

>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OBAMA HAS WON-PRESIDENT ;d

>>>>>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"

>>>>>> <gathering at misera.net>

>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008, 2:07 PM

>>>>>> I am excited about Obama and for what 'he says' he

>>>>>> will do, especially here

>>>>>> in the US socially - and I look forward to the

>>>>>> possibilities of people

>>>>>> coming together in the US, but anyone who thinks Obama is

>>>>>> going to make

>>>>>> drastic change overseas, in the environment, or fiscally is

>>>>>> a fool.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> The world is America's bitch and she likes to have her

>>>>>> ass reamed.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

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