[kj] not enough Water...it's a Total Invasion
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Wed Mar 26 18:26:04 EDT 2008
In the UK we've been waiting for a housing crash for some years... and despite what you read in the media, it still hasn't happening / isn't happening. Or rather, it is in some areas, but not at all in others. Prices in London have increased slowly rather than quickly, but they are still going up.
Which is not to say that they won't dive at some point. Just that they haven't yet.
Jamie
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From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:52
Subject: Re: [kj] not enough Water...it's a Total Invasion
To really weigh that up I think you need to also have stats on incomes,
nterest rates, house prices etc. Housing affordability in NZ has gone
rom 40% in about 2002 to in some cases over 100%, averaging over 80%.
xpessed as the % average take-home pay required to service the average
ortgage, assuming a 20% deposit I think.
Meaning the housing market is in for a nasty fall over the next few years
we've just started in the last 6 months), as is the UK from what I've
ead. The US is already in the middle of a nasty price fall in a lot of
reas.
> Damn, both LON and NZ are more expensive than even California, with SW
London
closer to NYC prices. Puts things in perspective a bit, globally.
jpwhkj at aol.com wrote:
SW London:
1 bedroom flat = £800 / month minimum
petrol = £1 per litre
beer = £3 for a bottle of Becks / Bud / etc (central London pubs)
gig = £20 approx
But that's London for you. Northern gatherers can tell you about the cost
of flat caps and whippets...
Jamie
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From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 8:41
Subject: Re: [kj] not enough Water...it's a Total Invasion
> ...we earn five eighth’s of fuck all compared to you rich cunts
overseas.....
~~ "5/8 of a law that stinks...." ~~
Buying power is where it's at. What's your cost of living in
NZ/Aotearoa?
Over here [u.s./los angeles] it's:
1 bedroom apt. = $800/mo.,
gasoline/petrol = $3.75/gal. [$1.00/liter],
groceries for 1 = > $100,
fast-food combo for = $5,
brkfst. @ basic diner = $10 for 1,
Decent non-club concert tickets = $30-55ea.,
Heineken/FostersBeer at a club = $5,
parking - hollywood club = $10-35,
cable internet access = $35/mo.[TWCable], etc.etc.
What are some others' local cost of living?
Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
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{page:Section1;} I reckon even though we earn five eighth’s of
fuck
all compared to you rich cunts overseas, over time New Zealand is gonna
get more and more attractive as everywhere else runs out of food, water,
energy, and pacifists. So HURRY UP, BUY A SHOVEL AND GET DOWN HERE!
We’ve got a temple to build slackers.
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Sent: Sunday, 23 March 2008 11:59 a.m.
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Subject: Re: [kj] not enough Water...it's a Total Invasion
hehe, last time I was in Whistler the resort was sponsored by
Evian...water water everywhee
sade1 wrote:
~~ "WATER is our business..." ~~
US CORPORATIONS ARE PRESENTLY TRYING TO PRIVATISE THE WATER
IN CANADIA IN ORDER TO BUY IT AND SHIP IT SOUTH.
READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE.
GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:
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Subject: [grunder] Water will be source of war unless world acts now,
warns minister
From: grunder at furrg.montclair.edu
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:25:51 -0500
To: grunder at furrg.montclair.edu
Water will be source of war unless world acts now, warns minister
By Ben Russell, Political Correspondent
Saturday, 22 March 2008
The world faces a future of 'water wars', unless action is taken to
prevent international water shortages and sanitation issues escalating
into conflicts, according to Gareth Thomas, the International
Development minister.
The minister's warning came as a coalition of 27 international charities
marked World Water Day, by writing to Gordon Brown demanding action to
give fresh water to 1.1 billion people with poor supplies. 'If we do not
act, the reality is that water supplies may become the subject of
international conflict in the years ahead,' said Mr Thomas. 'We need to
invest now to prevent us having to pay that price in the future.'
His department warned that two-thirds of the world's population will live
in water-stressed countries by 2025. The stark prediction comes after the
Prime Minister said in his national security strategy that pressure on
water was one of the factors that could help countries 'tip into
instability, state failure or conflict'.
The coalition of charities has appealed for a global effort to bring
running water to the developing world and supply sanitation to a further
2.6 billion people. It said international action was needed to prevent
competition for water destabilising communities and escalating into
conflicts.
In their letter, the campaigners say: 'Tackling the water and sanitation
crisis is essential if the 'Millennium Development Goal Call to Action' is
to be a success, otherwise progress on health, education and environmental
sustainability will be undermined. Each year 443 million school days are
lost globally to diarrhoea and 1.8 million children die unnecessarily from
these diseases.
'Investing in sanitation and water brings the greatest public health gains
of any single development intervention and delivers huge economic returns.
The G8 would do well to heed the development history of east Asian
countries that put tackling these issues at the forefront of their
national development efforts.'
Ministers agree the world needs to take urgent action to avoid missing
Millennium Development Goals to halve the proportion of people without
access to safe drinking water by 2015. That target should be met, although
progress has been limited in sub-Saharan Africa.
Mr Brown's security strategy said 'rising temperatures together with
extreme weather will increase pressures on water supplies'. It went on: 'A
growing and increasingly urbanised global population will increase demand
for food and water, at the same time as climate change and other trends
put greater pressure on their supply.
'Already well over 1 billion people suffer from water shortages and 30
countries get more than a third of their water from outside their borders.
With climate change, those figures are likely to grow, increasing the
possibility of disputes.'
Charlie Kronick, senior climate adviser at Greenpeace, said the whole of
sub-Saharan Africa, most of south Asia and western South America were at
risk of water shortages if global warming continues.
'There is no doubt that climate change is going to be potentially the
biggest source of water stress,' he said. 'If average global temperatures
go more than two degrees above pre-industrial levels you are looking at 2
to 3 billion people potentially suffering water shortages. It's a pretty
serious business.'
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