[kj] not enough Water...it's a Total Invasion
Brendan
bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Wed Mar 26 17:52:35 EDT 2008
To really weigh that up I think you need to also have stats on incomes,
interest rates, house prices etc. Housing affordability in NZ has gone
from 40% in about 2002 to in some cases over 100%, averaging over 80%.
Expessed as the % average take-home pay required to service the average
mortgage, assuming a 20% deposit I think.
Meaning the housing market is in for a nasty fall over the next few years
(we've just started in the last 6 months), as is the UK from what I've
read. The US is already in the middle of a nasty price fall in a lot of
areas.
> Damn, both LON and NZ are more expensive than even California, with SW
> London
> closer to NYC prices. Puts things in perspective a bit, globally.
>
> jpwhkj at aol.com wrote:
> SW London:
>
> 1 bedroom flat = £800 / month minimum
> petrol = £1 per litre
> beer = £3 for a bottle of Becks / Bud / etc (central London pubs)
> gig = £20 approx
>
> But that's London for you. Northern gatherers can tell you about the cost
> of flat caps and whippets...
>
> Jamie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 8:41
> Subject: Re: [kj] not enough Water...it's a Total Invasion
>
> > ...we earn five eighth’s of fuck all compared to you rich cunts
> overseas.....
>
> ~~ "5/8 of a law that stinks...." ~~
>
> Buying power is where it's at. What's your cost of living in
> NZ/Aotearoa?
> Over here [u.s./los angeles] it's:
> 1 bedroom apt. = $800/mo.,
> gasoline/petrol = $3.75/gal. [$1.00/liter],
> groceries for 1 = > $100,
> fast-food combo for = $5,
> brkfst. @ basic diner = $10 for 1,
> Decent non-club concert tickets = $30-55ea.,
> Heineken/FostersBeer at a club = $5,
> parking - hollywood club = $10-35,
> cable internet access = $35/mo.[TWCable], etc.etc.
>
> What are some others' local cost of living?
>
>
> Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
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> {page:Section1;} I reckon even though we earn five eighth’s of
> fuck
> all compared to you rich cunts overseas, over time New Zealand is gonna
> get more and more attractive as everywhere else runs out of food, water,
> energy, and pacifists. So HURRY UP, BUY A SHOVEL AND GET DOWN HERE!
> We’ve got a temple to build slackers.
>
>
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> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> On Behalf Of woody2shooz
> Sent: Sunday, 23 March 2008 11:59 a.m.
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] not enough Water...it's a Total Invasion
>
>
> hehe, last time I was in Whistler the resort was sponsored by
> Evian...water water everywhee
>
> sade1 wrote:
> ~~ "WATER is our business..." ~~
>
>
>
> US CORPORATIONS ARE PRESENTLY TRYING TO PRIVATISE THE WATER
>
> IN CANADIA IN ORDER TO BUY IT AND SHIP IT SOUTH.
>
> READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE.
>
>
> GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> Subject: [grunder] Water will be source of war unless world acts now,
> warns minister
> From: grunder at furrg.montclair.edu
> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:25:51 -0500
> To: grunder at furrg.montclair.edu
> Water will be source of war unless world acts now, warns minister
> By Ben Russell, Political Correspondent
> Saturday, 22 March 2008
>
> The world faces a future of 'water wars', unless action is taken to
> prevent international water shortages and sanitation issues escalating
> into conflicts, according to Gareth Thomas, the International
> Development minister.
>
> The minister's warning came as a coalition of 27 international charities
> marked World Water Day, by writing to Gordon Brown demanding action to
> give fresh water to 1.1 billion people with poor supplies. 'If we do not
> act, the reality is that water supplies may become the subject of
> international conflict in the years ahead,' said Mr Thomas. 'We need to
> invest now to prevent us having to pay that price in the future.'
> His department warned that two-thirds of the world's population will live
> in water-stressed countries by 2025. The stark prediction comes after the
> Prime Minister said in his national security strategy that pressure on
> water was one of the factors that could help countries 'tip into
> instability, state failure or conflict'.
> The coalition of charities has appealed for a global effort to bring
> running water to the developing world and supply sanitation to a further
> 2.6 billion people. It said international action was needed to prevent
> competition for water destabilising communities and escalating into
> conflicts.
> In their letter, the campaigners say: 'Tackling the water and sanitation
> crisis is essential if the 'Millennium Development Goal Call to Action' is
> to be a success, otherwise progress on health, education and environmental
> sustainability will be undermined. Each year 443 million school days are
> lost globally to diarrhoea and 1.8 million children die unnecessarily from
> these diseases.
> 'Investing in sanitation and water brings the greatest public health gains
> of any single development intervention and delivers huge economic returns.
> The G8 would do well to heed the development history of east Asian
> countries that put tackling these issues at the forefront of their
> national development efforts.'
> Ministers agree the world needs to take urgent action to avoid missing
> Millennium Development Goals to halve the proportion of people without
> access to safe drinking water by 2015. That target should be met, although
> progress has been limited in sub-Saharan Africa.
> Mr Brown's security strategy said 'rising temperatures together with
> extreme weather will increase pressures on water supplies'. It went on: 'A
> growing and increasingly urbanised global population will increase demand
> for food and water, at the same time as climate change and other trends
> put greater pressure on their supply.
> 'Already well over 1 billion people suffer from water shortages and 30
> countries get more than a third of their water from outside their borders.
> With climate change, those figures are likely to grow, increasing the
> possibility of disputes.'
> Charlie Kronick, senior climate adviser at Greenpeace, said the whole of
> sub-Saharan Africa, most of south Asia and western South America were at
> risk of water shortages if global warming continues.
> 'There is no doubt that climate change is going to be potentially the
> biggest source of water stress,' he said. 'If average global temperatures
> go more than two degrees above pre-industrial levels you are looking at 2
> to 3 billion people potentially suffering water shortages. It's a pretty
> serious business.'
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