[kj] not enough Water...it's a Total Invasion

[Brendan]

I've been lent the same book, it's big enough to beat someone to death
with...looks interesting.



> just got given a book to read called "Collapse - how societies choose

> to fail or survive" by Jared Diamond, about this kinda stuff...

> faaaarkin interesting, so many factors at play, we really are living

> like a snail on the edge of a razorblade!

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> On 3/25/08, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

>> I had an interesting chat with a double PhD geologist while I was fixing

>> his

>> PC last year, he agreed with me that overpopulation is the single

>> biggest

>> environmental problem, (see he deserves those degrees! ;) he said he

>> thinks

>> the planet is capable of sustaining half to a billion people. Not really

>> sure if he knew what he was on about, he worked in oil prospecting I

>> think.

>>

>>

>>

>> Of course there's a difference between what is capable and what is

>> optimal.

>> The planet might well be able to support 10 billion

but what's the

>> point? I

>> would tend to go along with what he said. What is anyone doing about

>> overpopulation? From what I know affluence is the cure for that. Cramps

>> the

>> style to have to always clean up baby sick from the floor of the SUV



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>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>> On

>> Behalf Of sade1

>> Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2008 5:51 p.m.

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Subject: Re: [kj] not enough Water...it's a Total Invasion

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>> "10 percent of the Land..[are] the priviledged Few

>>

>>                         ..[who] have..[who] own..and hold," ~~

>> ageofgreed

>>

>>

>>

>>    I've read that there is enough food, water, assets and wealth on

>> planet

>> Earth for all

>>

>> to live and live comfortably a great quality of life - if the food,

>> water,

>> wealth, and assets

>>

>> were much more evenly distributed among the inhabitants.

>>

>>    *I* would never say "go communist" and forcibly expropriate,

>> nationalise,

>> and/or

>>

>> distribute everything, but instead allowed each other a fair opportunity

>> at

>> honestly

>>

>> working for it, we could all live, and live safely and awesomely. And it

>> doesn't take

>>

>> much, either.

>>

>> Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

>>

>> Overpopulation is a contributing factor to a lot of these kind of

>> problems.

>>

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>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>> On

>> Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON

>> Sent: Sunday, 23 March 2008 7:52 a.m.

>> To: gathering

>> Subject: [kj] not enough Water...it's a Total Invasion

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>> Subject: [grunder] Water will be source of war unless world acts now,

>> warns

>> minister

>> From: grunder at furrg.montclair.edu

>> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:25:51 -0500

>> To: grunder at furrg.montclair.edu

>>

>>

>> Water will be source of war unless world acts now, warns minister

>>

>>

>> By Ben Russell, Political Correspondent

>> Saturday, 22 March 2008

>>

>> The world faces a future of 'water wars', unless action is taken to

>> prevent

>> international water shortages and sanitation issues escalating into

>> conflicts, according to Gareth Thomas, the International Development

>> minister.

>>

>> The minister's warning came as a coalition of 27 international charities

>> marked World Water Day, by writing to Gordon Brown demanding action to

>> give

>> fresh water to 1.1 billion people with poor supplies. 'If we do not act,

>> the

>> reality is that water supplies may become the subject of international

>> conflict in the years ahead,' said Mr Thomas. 'We need to invest now to

>> prevent us having to pay that price in the future.'

>> His department warned that two-thirds of the world's population will

>> live in

>> water-stressed countries by 2025. The stark prediction comes after the

>> Prime

>> Minister said in his national security strategy that pressure on water

>> was

>> one of the factors that could help countries 'tip into instability,

>> state

>> failure or conflict'.

>> The coalition of charities has appealed for a global effort to bring

>> running

>> water to the developing world and supply sanitation to a further 2.6

>> billion

>> people. It said international action was needed to prevent competition

>> for

>> water destabilising communities and escalating into conflicts.

>> In their letter, the campaigners say: 'Tackling the water and sanitation

>> crisis is essential if the 'Millennium Development Goal Call to Action'

>> is

>> to be a success, otherwise progress on health, education and

>> environmental

>> sustainability will be undermined. Each year 443 million school days are

>> lost globally to diarrhoea and 1.8 million children die unnecessarily

>> from

>> these diseases.

>> 'Investing in sanitation and water brings the greatest public health

>> gains

>> of any single development intervention and delivers huge economic

>> returns.

>> The G8 would do well to heed the development history of east Asian

>> countries

>> that put tackling these issues at the forefront of their national

>> development efforts.'

>> Ministers agree the world needs to take urgent action to avoid missing

>> Millennium Development Goals to halve the proportion of people without

>> access to safe drinking water by 2015. That target should be met,

>> although

>> progress has been limited in sub-Saharan Africa.

>> Mr Brown's security strategy said 'rising temperatures together with

>> extreme

>> weather will increase pressures on water supplies'. It went on: 'A

>> growing

>> and increasingly urbanised global population will increase demand for

>> food

>> and water, at the same time as climate change and other trends put

>> greater

>> pressure on their supply.

>> 'Already well over 1 billion people suffer from water shortages and 30

>> countries get more than a third of their water from outside their

>> borders.

>> With climate change, those figures are likely to grow, increasing the

>> possibility of disputes.'

>> Charlie Kronick, senior climate adviser at Greenpeace, said the whole of

>> sub-Saharan Africa, most of south Asia and western South America were at

>> risk of water shortages if global warming continues.

>> 'There is no doubt that climate change is going to be potentially the

>> biggest source of water stress,' he said. 'If average global

>> temperatures go

>> more than two degrees above pre-industrial levels you are looking at 2

>> to 3

>> billion people potentially suffering water shortages. It's a pretty

>> serious

>> business.'

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