[kj] not enough Water...it's a Total Invasion

[bongo]

just got given a book to read called "Collapse - how societies choose
to fail or survive" by Jared Diamond, about this kinda stuff...
faaaarkin interesting, so many factors at play, we really are living
like a snail on the edge of a razorblade!



On 3/25/08, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

> I had an interesting chat with a double PhD geologist while I was fixing his

> PC last year, he agreed with me that overpopulation is the single biggest

> environmental problem, (see he deserves those degrees! ;) he said he thinks

> the planet is capable of sustaining half to a billion people. Not really

> sure if he knew what he was on about, he worked in oil prospecting I think.

>

>

>

> Of course there's a difference between what is capable and what is optimal.

> The planet might well be able to support 10 billion…but what's the point? I

> would tend to go along with what he said. What is anyone doing about

> overpopulation? From what I know affluence is the cure for that. Cramps the

> style to have to always clean up baby sick from the floor of the SUV…

>

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> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

> Behalf Of sade1

> Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2008 5:51 p.m.

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] not enough Water...it's a Total Invasion

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>

> "10 percent of the Land..[are] the priviledged Few

>

>                         ..[who] have..[who] own..and hold," ~~ ageofgreed

>

>

>

>    I've read that there is enough food, water, assets and wealth on planet

> Earth for all

>

> to live and live comfortably a great quality of life - if the food, water,

> wealth, and assets

>

> were much more evenly distributed among the inhabitants.

>

>    *I* would never say "go communist" and forcibly expropriate, nationalise,

> and/or

>

> distribute everything, but instead allowed each other a fair opportunity at

> honestly

>

> working for it, we could all live, and live safely and awesomely. And it

> doesn't take

>

> much, either.

>

> Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

>

> Overpopulation is a contributing factor to a lot of these kind of problems.

>

>

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> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

> Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON

> Sent: Sunday, 23 March 2008 7:52 a.m.

> To: gathering

> Subject: [kj] not enough Water...it's a Total Invasion

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> Subject: [grunder] Water will be source of war unless world acts now, warns

> minister

> From: grunder at furrg.montclair.edu

> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:25:51 -0500

> To: grunder at furrg.montclair.edu

>

>

> Water will be source of war unless world acts now, warns minister

>

>

> By Ben Russell, Political Correspondent

> Saturday, 22 March 2008

>

> The world faces a future of 'water wars', unless action is taken to prevent

> international water shortages and sanitation issues escalating into

> conflicts, according to Gareth Thomas, the International Development

> minister.

>

> The minister's warning came as a coalition of 27 international charities

> marked World Water Day, by writing to Gordon Brown demanding action to give

> fresh water to 1.1 billion people with poor supplies. 'If we do not act, the

> reality is that water supplies may become the subject of international

> conflict in the years ahead,' said Mr Thomas. 'We need to invest now to

> prevent us having to pay that price in the future.'

> His department warned that two-thirds of the world's population will live in

> water-stressed countries by 2025. The stark prediction comes after the Prime

> Minister said in his national security strategy that pressure on water was

> one of the factors that could help countries 'tip into instability, state

> failure or conflict'.

> The coalition of charities has appealed for a global effort to bring running

> water to the developing world and supply sanitation to a further 2.6 billion

> people. It said international action was needed to prevent competition for

> water destabilising communities and escalating into conflicts.

> In their letter, the campaigners say: 'Tackling the water and sanitation

> crisis is essential if the 'Millennium Development Goal Call to Action' is

> to be a success, otherwise progress on health, education and environmental

> sustainability will be undermined. Each year 443 million school days are

> lost globally to diarrhoea and 1.8 million children die unnecessarily from

> these diseases.

> 'Investing in sanitation and water brings the greatest public health gains

> of any single development intervention and delivers huge economic returns.

> The G8 would do well to heed the development history of east Asian countries

> that put tackling these issues at the forefront of their national

> development efforts.'

> Ministers agree the world needs to take urgent action to avoid missing

> Millennium Development Goals to halve the proportion of people without

> access to safe drinking water by 2015. That target should be met, although

> progress has been limited in sub-Saharan Africa.

> Mr Brown's security strategy said 'rising temperatures together with extreme

> weather will increase pressures on water supplies'. It went on: 'A growing

> and increasingly urbanised global population will increase demand for food

> and water, at the same time as climate change and other trends put greater

> pressure on their supply.

> 'Already well over 1 billion people suffer from water shortages and 30

> countries get more than a third of their water from outside their borders.

> With climate change, those figures are likely to grow, increasing the

> possibility of disputes.'

> Charlie Kronick, senior climate adviser at Greenpeace, said the whole of

> sub-Saharan Africa, most of south Asia and western South America were at

> risk of water shortages if global warming continues.

> 'There is no doubt that climate change is going to be potentially the

> biggest source of water stress,' he said. 'If average global temperatures go

> more than two degrees above pre-industrial levels you are looking at 2 to 3

> billion people potentially suffering water shortages. It's a pretty serious

> business.'

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