[kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American Right

Brendan bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Tue Mar 18 00:11:40 EDT 2008


Ex cop (highly distinguished) Michael Ruppert reckons the CIA are drug
runners, here is him confronting then CIA director about it. Watch the
fucker squirm...look at his hands. Body language eh? Rupert reckons the
guy's career aspirations were quashed after his handling of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t3pl5Wxgyg

This is Ruppert's site, I linked to it from A Perfect Circle's site (!)

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/


>

> Thanks for the compliment, Brendan. That was a good post. And what you're

> saying even goes beyond advertising. I've heard that 2 of the most

> profitable things in the world are prostitution and illegal drugs, which

> aren't even advertised...As long as people can profit from fucking up

> other people, they will! (Of course I don't have to add the tag about

> revolution--y'all know that already).

> P.S> RIP Mikey Dread!> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To:

> gathering at misera.net> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:06:01 +1300> Subject: Re:

> [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American Right> > Yeah I

> hear you, but I just think that the negative social messages> portrayed by

> corporates and the press (same thing) that I'm talking about> are too

> intrusive, and the target audience is too vulnerable. > > Does it not

> bother you that you drive through the city and practically> wherever you

> are, you can't avoid catching billboards featuring the most> beautiful

> people they can find, surgically enhanced, gymmed up, fake tan,> expensive

> clothes, expensive photoshoot, photoshopped...who can live up to> that?!

> And the messages they portray, the smug aloof superior looks on their>

> faces..."This shit is exclusive! Only top grade pussy wears Gucci...you>

> could never interest anyone that sexy..." > > We're fucking devolving,

> maaaaaan.> > And what is the alternative? Cities could be made to actually

> look> beautiful, messages could be positive messages about US as opposed

> to US vs> THEM (the beautiful people vs the masses...the rich vs the poor,

> the> discerning vs the plain, the popular vs the losers, the SPECIAL vs

> the drab)> > The statistics are overwhelming...the amount of ads on

> children's tv for> nutritionless harmful super-sweet food vs healthy food

> that will actually> benefit them in some way, the bullshit collaboration

> between the press and> govt / corporate lobby groups, the OWNERSHIP of the

> press by corporates with> no social responsibility, etc etc. It's all very

> well saying 'hey you can> opt out at any time' but it's not that easy. (I

> just gave my telly away,> that helped a lot). I've seen it intensify since

> I was a kid...back in the> day when I was a kid the telly wanted to sell

> me sports equipment, lego and> other toys that would actually enhance my

> learning, and yes, plastic pieces> of shit at McDonalds and junk food, now

> kids are getting pressure to have a> cellphone, dress like an adult way

> before they are out of childhood, behave> like the vapid actors and

> actresses on the faux reality-tv programmes about> spoiled LA brats...> >

> NOTHING TO SAY!> > (Olly where are you when I need you hippie, back me up

> here I've gone out on> a limb and I'm starting to invent words to bloster

> my argument. Or Greg,> you're completely wrong about Soundgarden but

> you're the leftist of the> bunch, you're needed at the front! ;) > > >

> -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On> Behalf Of ade> Sent: Tuesday, 18

> March 2008 11:30 a.m.> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New

> American Right> > Dude, if people want to be smug fucking thin-veneered

> shallow motherfuckers,> what's new??!! Ooh, I've got a lifestyle, I've got

> a fancy car, etc, etc.> That's THEM. Don't *just* blame consumerism -

> people like that would do it> anyway... sometimes I think the lefty point

> of view just doesn't get that> *many* people are vile !!!! Ooh, let's all

> cuddle-up & send bad vibes to> the corporates - lol !!!> > Don't you see

> that this is all about human communication? Constantly> evolving. The

> pendulum swings both ways... as do you! ;)> > -----Original Message----->

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net>

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn> Sent: 17

> March 2008 22:19> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'>

> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American>

> Right> > > A lot of us went dark at that Manic twat for trying to sell us

> his> merchandise when this list was created for KJ fans to discuss KJ

> etc...so I> suppose you could say Facebook conjures in some people a

> similar> sentiment...although I agree the circumstances are a bit

> different. One of> the author's main gripes is the cynical

> commodititisation,> electronification, and distancification of basic human

> interaction, if you> follow my invented words. The popularity contest with

> friends lists, that's> the kind of stuff that REALLY gets on my goat,

> personally. I mean what,> aren't all the bullshit messages on billboards,

> tv, magazines, movies etc> enough to convince us that life is all about

> material wealth, populatiry,> and physical beauty?! The message is so

> overwhelmingly> prevalent...personally it disgusts me. Some areas seem to

> be chock full of> people all with the perfect haircut, sunglasses,

> clothes, car etc, and they> just radiate smug / superior. It's sickly. I

> could easily turn into one of> those people if I wanted, but why? I'd

> quite honestly prefer hanging out> with EMOs :)> > Re. the sale of

> personal information to corporates (personal information> such as bands

> you like, your location, age, gender, etc). I think he has a> point, and I

> think it's relevant to discuss the motives of the creators of> Facebook

> too. He may have gone a bit rabid on it...perhaps.> > In terms of

> conspiracy 'theories'...a question: When a conspiracy theory> becomes a

> conspiracy reality...do people take notice? Another question...how> many

> people think that Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald? How> many

> people with any basic understanding of physics, think that...?> > As Bill

> Hicks said...Back and to the left...back and to the left...> >

> -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On> Behalf Of ade> Sent: Tuesday, 18

> March 2008 10:16 a.m.> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New

> American Right> > Pat-ster,> > I'm surprised you can't see just what a

> heap of sh!t that so-called> article is. Wow - big money people invest in

> things that could be big.> NOT ONCE have I had to divulge any information

> such as purchasing> preferences, ID card details (what fucking ID card???

> Is he writing> from the future???), etc, to Facebook HQ whilst setting up

> or using> my account. I find it useful to keep in touch with people from

> work.> Neither have I had to divulge anything to Myspace - I have a load

> of> Myspace pages for music projects. It's somewhere to upload mp3's!> >

> And if you think I'm blind to it, a) I'm *proper* paranoid, lol &> b) I'm

> a 'techie' - I don't just sign up for anything. I don't want> the scum to

> know ANYTHING. In fact, I rarely register for *anything*> on the web.> >

> Now, did you post that turd? I bet they'll be x-raying the package.>

> They're watching you... ;)> > > ade.> > -----Original Message-----> From:

> gathering-bounces at misera.net> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

> Behalf Of iPat> Sent: 17 March 2008 18:22> To: A list about all things

> Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone -

> Facebook & The New American> Right> > > A shame i wasted my useful time

> reading that email> i wonder if i could pen a patronising bit of drivvel

> as well> > Who knows, maybe e can get some prick to autograph it, though

> it might> hide behind pseudonyms to give itself a false platform of>

> intelligence.> > ill call it> > "a fart under the covers"> > off now, feel

> a shit coming on. I ll send it somewhere.> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:23

> PM, The Exorcist> <killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com> wrote:> >> > A shame I

> wasted my useful time reading that crap.> > I wonder if I ought to pen a

> long article about that as well!> >> > Who knows, maybe I can have Mr. Tom

> Hodgkinson autograph it. Though he'll> > probably use a> > false signature

> to avoid detection... Just in case.... Ya know?> >> > I'll call it> >> >

> "Angry male who sees conspiracies everywhere and despises successful>

> people> > who have> > different political views than he does".> >> > Maybe

> I'll submit it to The Guaridan as well. I've heard that they like> to> >

> publish some really crappy articles.> >> >> iPat>

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