[kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American Right

[GREG SLAWSON]

Thanks for the compliment, Brendan. That was a good post. And what you're saying even goes beyond advertising. I've heard that 2 of the most profitable things in the world are prostitution and illegal drugs, which aren't even advertised...As long as people can profit from fucking up other people, they will! (Of course I don't have to add the tag about revolution--y'all know that already).
P.S> RIP Mikey Dread!> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:06:01 +1300> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American Right> > Yeah I hear you, but I just think that the negative social messages> portrayed by corporates and the press (same thing) that I'm talking about> are too intrusive, and the target audience is too vulnerable. > > Does it not bother you that you drive through the city and practically> wherever you are, you can't avoid catching billboards featuring the most> beautiful people they can find, surgically enhanced, gymmed up, fake tan,> expensive clothes, expensive photoshoot, photoshopped...who can live up to> that?! And the messages they portray, the smug aloof superior looks on their> faces..."This shit is exclusive! Only top grade pussy wears Gucci...you> could never interest anyone that sexy..." > > We're fucking devolving, maaaaaan.> > And what is the alternative? Cities could be made to actually look> beautiful, messages could be positive messages about US as opposed to US vs> THEM (the beautiful people vs the masses...the rich vs the poor, the> discerning vs the plain, the popular vs the losers, the SPECIAL vs the drab)> > The statistics are overwhelming...the amount of ads on children's tv for> nutritionless harmful super-sweet food vs healthy food that will actually> benefit them in some way, the bullshit collaboration between the press and> govt / corporate lobby groups, the OWNERSHIP of the press by corporates with> no social responsibility, etc etc. It's all very well saying 'hey you can> opt out at any time' but it's not that easy. (I just gave my telly away,> that helped a lot). I've seen it intensify since I was a kid...back in the> day when I was a kid the telly wanted to sell me sports equipment, lego and> other toys that would actually enhance my learning, and yes, plastic pieces> of shit at McDonalds and junk food, now kids are getting pressure to have a> cellphone, dress like an adult way before they are out of childhood, behave> like the vapid actors and actresses on the faux reality-tv programmes about> spoiled LA brats...> > NOTHING TO SAY!> > (Olly where are you when I need you hippie, back me up here I've gone out on> a limb and I'm starting to invent words to bloster my argument. Or Greg,> you're completely wrong about Soundgarden but you're the leftist of the> bunch, you're needed at the front! ;) > > > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On> Behalf Of ade> Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2008 11:30 a.m.> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American Right> > Dude, if people want to be smug fucking thin-veneered shallow motherfuckers,> what's new??!! Ooh, I've got a lifestyle, I've got a fancy car, etc, etc.> That's THEM. Don't *just* blame consumerism - people like that would do it> anyway... sometimes I think the lefty point of view just doesn't get that> *many* people are vile !!!! Ooh, let's all cuddle-up & send bad vibes to> the corporates - lol !!!> > Don't you see that this is all about human communication? Constantly> evolving. The pendulum swings both ways... as do you! ;)> > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn> Sent: 17 March 2008 22:19> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American> Right> > > A lot of us went dark at that Manic twat for trying to sell us his> merchandise when this list was created for KJ fans to discuss KJ etc...so I> suppose you could say Facebook conjures in some people a similar> sentiment...although I agree the circumstances are a bit different. One of> the author's main gripes is the cynical commodititisation,> electronification, and distancification of basic human interaction, if you> follow my invented words. The popularity contest with friends lists, that's> the kind of stuff that REALLY gets on my goat, personally. I mean what,> aren't all the bullshit messages on billboards, tv, magazines, movies etc> enough to convince us that life is all about material wealth, populatiry,> and physical beauty?! The message is so overwhelmingly> prevalent...personally it disgusts me. Some areas seem to be chock full of> people all with the perfect haircut, sunglasses, clothes, car etc, and they> just radiate smug / superior. It's sickly. I could easily turn into one of> those people if I wanted, but why? I'd quite honestly prefer hanging out> with EMOs :)> > Re. the sale of personal information to corporates (personal information> such as bands you like, your location, age, gender, etc). I think he has a> point, and I think it's relevant to discuss the motives of the creators of> Facebook too. He may have gone a bit rabid on it...perhaps.> > In terms of conspiracy 'theories'...a question: When a conspiracy theory> becomes a conspiracy reality...do people take notice? Another question...how> many people think that Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald? How> many people with any basic understanding of physics, think that...?> > As Bill Hicks said...Back and to the left...back and to the left...> > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On> Behalf Of ade> Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2008 10:16 a.m.> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American Right> > Pat-ster,> > I'm surprised you can't see just what a heap of sh!t that so-called> article is. Wow - big money people invest in things that could be big.> NOT ONCE have I had to divulge any information such as purchasing> preferences, ID card details (what fucking ID card??? Is he writing> from the future???), etc, to Facebook HQ whilst setting up or using> my account. I find it useful to keep in touch with people from work.> Neither have I had to divulge anything to Myspace - I have a load of> Myspace pages for music projects. It's somewhere to upload mp3's!> > And if you think I'm blind to it, a) I'm *proper* paranoid, lol &> b) I'm a 'techie' - I don't just sign up for anything. I don't want> the scum to know ANYTHING. In fact, I rarely register for *anything*> on the web.> > Now, did you post that turd? I bet they'll be x-raying the package.> They're watching you... ;)> > > ade.> > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of iPat> Sent: 17 March 2008 18:22> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American> Right> > > A shame i wasted my useful time reading that email> i wonder if i could pen a patronising bit of drivvel as well> > Who knows, maybe e can get some prick to autograph it, though it might> hide behind pseudonyms to give itself a false platform of> intelligence.> > ill call it> > "a fart under the covers"> > off now, feel a shit coming on. I ll send it somewhere.> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:23 PM, The Exorcist> <killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com> wrote:> >> > A shame I wasted my useful time reading that crap.> > I wonder if I ought to pen a long article about that as well!> >> > Who knows, maybe I can have Mr. Tom Hodgkinson autograph it. Though he'll> > probably use a> > false signature to avoid detection... Just in case.... Ya know?> >> > I'll call it> >> > "Angry male who sees conspiracies everywhere and despises successful> people> > who have> > different political views than he does".> >> > Maybe I'll submit it to The Guaridan as well. I've heard that they like> to> > publish some really crappy articles.> >> >> iPat> _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1332 - Release Date: 17/03/2008> 10:48 a.m.> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1332 - Release Date: 17/03/2008> 10:48 a.m.> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1332 - Release Date: 17/03/2008> 10:48 a.m.> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1332 - Release Date: 17/03/2008> 10:48 a.m.> > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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