[kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American Right

[The Exorcist]

When someone has a point to make and starts going raving mad frothing 
at the mouth
whatever merit his statements have tend to go to the shitter. Rather 
than focusing on
the ideas he was trying to relay he started going off on individuals 
tying in one with the other
and making a whole mess of it.

I wonder if he uses credit cards. Credit cards are far more prevalent 
than facebook and give
out a shitload more information than myspace or facebook. Will he 
stop using them? They pass
along information left and right. The ISP he is using might very well 
have something like "nebuad"
out there reading every damn thing he writes and following every link 
he clicks on. Will he forsake
the internet?

I have a facebook account with a total of 15 "friends". They are all 
family and a few friends that I keep
in touch with and share photos and news. There is no personal info 
there as I didn't put anything there.
I have a myspace account with  125 "friends" a few are people that I 
know, the rest are musicians or projects
that have caught my interest.

I despise the whole who's got more "friends" thing and pity those 
that fill their lives with it.
I don't follow trends, I own no brand name clothes, I don't have a 
Mac or an Ipod. (I do have
my old boxy Iriver though *grin*.) I don't go to trendy clubs, I 
don't go to trendy bars and I don't go around
advocating the latest trendiest ideals or causes. I'll leave that to 
Hollywood and hipsters.
(Though I will say FREE TIBET!!!)

I do despise some of the things going on in corporate society but I 
don't despise capitalism.
Any idea that is brought forth to mankind has it's pro's and cons. 
People will always be out there
to take advantage of whatever it is that is presented to them.

Cheers,
Me

Ps. You don't need any support, you're doing quite alright by yourself. :)

If you want, feel free to borrow my soapbox. Due to my short stature I made
sure to make it really high so that everyone can see me.

At 06:19 PM 3/17/2008, you wrote:

>A lot of us went dark at that Manic twat for trying to sell us his

>merchandise when this list was created for KJ fans to discuss KJ etc...so I

>suppose you could say Facebook conjures in some people a similar

>sentiment...although I agree the circumstances are a bit different. One of

>the author's main gripes is the cynical commodititisation,

>electronification, and distancification of basic human interaction, if you

>follow my invented words. The popularity contest with friends lists, that's

>the kind of stuff that REALLY gets on my goat, personally. I mean what,

>aren't all the bullshit messages on billboards, tv, magazines, movies etc

>enough to convince us that life is all about material wealth, populatiry,

>and physical beauty?! The message is so overwhelmingly

>prevalent...personally it disgusts me. Some areas seem to be chock full of

>people all with the perfect haircut, sunglasses, clothes, car etc, and they

>just radiate smug / superior. It's sickly. I could easily turn into one of

>those people if I wanted, but why? I'd quite honestly prefer hanging out

>with EMOs :)

>

>Re. the sale of personal information to corporates (personal information

>such as bands you like, your location, age, gender, etc). I think he has a

>point, and I think it's relevant to discuss the motives of the creators of

>Facebook too. He may have gone a bit rabid on it...perhaps.

>

>In terms of conspiracy 'theories'...a question: When a conspiracy theory

>becomes a conspiracy reality...do people take notice? Another question...how

>many people think that Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald? How

>many people with any basic understanding of physics, think that...?

>

>As Bill Hicks said...Back and to the left...back and to the left...

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

>Behalf Of ade

>Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2008 10:16 a.m.

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American Right

>

>Pat-ster,

>

>I'm surprised you can't see just what a heap of sh!t that so-called

>article is. Wow - big money people invest in things that could be big.

>NOT ONCE have I had to divulge any information such as purchasing

>preferences, ID card details (what fucking ID card??? Is he writing

>from the future???), etc, to Facebook HQ whilst setting up or using

>my account. I find it useful to keep in touch with people from work.

>Neither have I had to divulge anything to Myspace - I have a load of

>Myspace pages for music projects. It's somewhere to upload mp3's!

>

>And if you think I'm blind to it, a) I'm *proper* paranoid, lol &

>b) I'm a 'techie' - I don't just sign up for anything. I don't want

>the scum to know ANYTHING. In fact, I rarely register for *anything*

>on the web.

>

>Now, did you post that turd? I bet they'll be x-raying the package.

>They're watching you... ;)

>

>

>ade.

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of iPat

>Sent: 17 March 2008 18:22

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Subject: Re: [kj] ot: We Want Everyone - Facebook & The New American

>Right

>

>

>A shame i wasted my useful time reading that email

>i wonder if i could pen a patronising bit of drivvel as well

>

>Who knows, maybe e can get some prick to autograph it, though it might

>hide behind pseudonyms to give itself a false platform of

>intelligence.

>

>ill call it

>

>"a fart under the covers"

>

>off now, feel a shit coming on. I ll send it somewhere.

>

>On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:23 PM, The Exorcist

><killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com> wrote:

> >

> >  A shame I wasted my useful time reading that crap.

> >  I wonder if I ought to pen a long article about that as well!

> >

> >  Who knows, maybe I can have Mr. Tom Hodgkinson autograph it. Though he'll

> > probably use a

> >  false signature to avoid detection... Just in case.... Ya know?

> >

> >  I'll call it

> >

> >  "Angry male who sees conspiracies everywhere and despises successful

>people

> > who have

> >  different political views than he does".

> >

> >  Maybe I'll submit it to The Guaridan as well. I've heard that they like

>to

> > publish some really crappy articles.

> >

> >

>iPat

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